Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 219 › Conversation 219-002

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Camp David

Tuesday, October 10, 1972 · 7:15 PM–8:15 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 13 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); [Unknown person(s)]Conversation219-002 on Tape 219StartTuesday, October 10, 1972 at 7:15 PMEndTuesday, October 10, 1972 at 8:15 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 219-002 ↗

First Lady Pat Nixon held a brief, private meeting with an unidentified individual at the Aspen Lodge in Camp David. Due to the withdrawal of the recorded content as personal information and the lack of an available transcript, the specific substance of their discussion remains classified or unavailable for historical review. The encounter lasted less than one minute before the participants departed the study.

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On October 10, 1972, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:15 pm and 8:15 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 219-002 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 219-2

Date: October 10, 1972
Time: Unknown between 7:15 pm and 8:15 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Thelma C. ("Pat") Nixon met with an unknown person.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 43s ]

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Mrs. Nixon and the unknown person left at an unknown time before 8:15 pm.
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Conversation 219-002, October 10, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/219-002 (accessed October 11, 2026).