Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 214 › Conversation 214-008

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Camp David

Sunday, October 1, 1972 · 9:05 AM–4:06 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 2 min

ParticipantsEisenhower, Julie Nixon; Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation214-008 on Tape 214StartSunday, October 1, 1972 at 9:05 AMEndMonday, October 2, 1972 at 4:06 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 214-008 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 651228594 ↗

Julie Nixon Eisenhower and First Lady Pat Nixon met privately at the Aspen Lodge at Camp David for an informal discussion. The conversation was largely personal in nature, as indicated by the withdrawal of the segment for being a personal, returnable item. No official policy matters or significant administrative decisions were recorded during this brief family interaction.

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Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 214-008 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 214-8

Date: Unknown between October 1 and 2, 1972
Time: Unknown between 9:05 am, October 1 and 4:06 pm, October 2, 1972
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Julie Nixon Eisenhower met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 42s     ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Mrs. Nixon left at an unknown time before 4:06 pm, October 2,
1972.

No speech has been transcribed for this recording. An AI model that listened to the whole recording reported: The recording contains no intelligible speech, consisting only of a continuous tone (withdrawn item). Material withdrawn by the National Archives (for privacy or national security) is replaced with a tone or silence in the released audio.

  • 214-009 9:05 AM · 3 min — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-010 9:05 AM · 9 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-011 9:05 AM · 22 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Nelson Pierce met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-012 9:05 AM · 6 min — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-013 9:05 AM · 9 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-014 9:05 AM · 2 min — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Rita Di Santis met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-015 9:05 AM · 48 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-016 9:05 AM · 2 min — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.

Conversation 214-008, October 1, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 651228594). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/214-008 (accessed November 2, 2026).