Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 230 › Conversation 230-021

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Camp David and Personal correspondence

Wednesday, November 22, 1972 · 7:07 PM–3:36 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 12 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); Eisenhower, Julie NixonConversation230-021 on Tape 230StartWednesday, November 22, 1972 at 7:07 PMEndThursday, November 23, 1972 at 3:36 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 230-021 ↗

Pat Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met at the Aspen Lodge in Camp David for a private, personal discussion. Because the recording consists primarily of withdrawn segments or non-transcribed material, the specific substance of their conversation remains restricted. No policy decisions or official government actions were documented in the surviving records of this interaction.

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Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:07 pm on November 22, 1972 and 3:36 pm on November 23, 1972. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 230-021 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 230-21

Date: November 22 or 23 1972
Time: Unknown between 7:07 pm and 3:36 pm, November 23, 1972
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon met with and Julie Nixon Eisenhower.

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Mrs. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower left at an unknown time before 3:36 pm, November 23,
1972.
  • 230-015 7:07 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Fina Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:07 pm on November 22, 1972 and 3:36 pm on November 23, 1972.
  • 230-016 7:07 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:07 pm on November 22, 1972 and 3:36 pm on November 23, 1972.
  • 230-017 7:07 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:07 pm on November 22, 1972 and 3:36 pm on November 23, 1972.
  • 230-018 7:07 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:07 pm on November 22, 1972 and 3:36 pm on November 23, 1972.
  • 230-019 7:07 PM · 32 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:07 pm on November 22, 1972 and 3:36 pm on November 23, 1972.
  • 230-020 7:07 PM · 15 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Tricia Nixon Cox met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:07 pm on November 22, 1972 and 3:36 pm on November 23, 1972.
  • 230-022 7:07 PM · 15 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:07 pm on November 22, 1972 and 3:36 pm on November 23, 1972.
  • 230-023 7:07 PM · 15 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:07 pm on November 22, 1972 and 3:36 pm on November 23, 1972.

Conversation 230-021, November 23, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/230-021 (accessed October 10, 2026).