Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 242 › Conversation 242-005

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Camp David

Saturday, February 3, 1973 · 2:45 PM–8:34 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 15 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); [Unknown person(s)]Conversation242-005 on Tape 242StartSaturday, February 3, 1973 at 2:45 PMEndSunday, February 4, 1973 at 8:34 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 242-005 ↗

First Lady Pat Nixon held an informal meeting with an unidentified individual at the Aspen Lodge in Camp David. Due to the presence of withdrawn material and the lack of an available transcript, the specific agenda and substantive outcomes of this discussion remain unrecorded. The interaction concludes without documented follow-up actions or policy-related developments.

Download MP3 · 0.1 MB

No transcript is available yet for this conversation. The recording may contain no audible speech, or it may not have been processed.

Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 2:45 pm on February 3, 1973 and 8:34 pm on February 4, 1973. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 242-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 242-5

Date: February 3 or 4, 1973
Time: Unknown between 2:45 pm, February 3 and 8:34 pm, February 4, 1973
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon talked with an unknown person.

**********************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[PERSONAL RETURNABLE]
[DURATION: 19s]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                        -5-

                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                                             Conversation No. 242-5 (cont’d)

[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
**********************************************************************

Mrs. Nixon left at an unknown time before 8:34 pm, February 4, 1973.
  • 242-001 2:45 PM · 38 sec — President Richard M. Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 2:45 pm on February 3, 1973 and 8:34 pm on February 4, 1973.
  • 242-002 2:45 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 2:45 pm on February 3, 1973 and 8:34 pm on February 4, 1973.
  • 242-003 2:45 PM · 43 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 2:45 pm on February 3, 1973 and 8:34 pm on February 4, 1973.
  • 242-004 2:45 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 2:45 pm on February 3, 1973 and 8:34 pm on February 4, 1973.
  • 242-006 2:45 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 2:45 pm on February 3, 1973 and 8:34 pm on February 4, 1973.
  • 242-007 2:45 PM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 2:45 pm on February 3, 1973 and 8:34 pm on February 4, 1973.
  • 242-008 2:45 PM · 19 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 2:45 pm on February 3, 1973 and 8:34 pm on February 4, 1973.
  • 242-009 2:45 PM · 29 sec — Unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 2:45 pm on February 3, 1973 and 8:34 pm on February 4, 1973.

Conversation 242-005, February 3, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/242-005 (accessed October 1, 2026).