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Nixon & Woods on Event planning and Crowd management

Monday, June 7, 1971 · 2:40 PM–2:43 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose MaryConversation255-013 on Tape 255 (tape position 00:21:31–00:23:28)StartMonday, June 7, 1971 at 2:40 PMEndMonday, June 7, 1971 at 2:43 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 255-013 ↗

President Nixon and his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, coordinate logistics for an upcoming event or appearance, specifically weighing the suitability of a library location versus alternative sites. They discuss concerns regarding crowd sizes and potential timing conflicts, ultimately deciding to prioritize indoor arrangements due to the heat. The conversation concludes with Woods confirming she will inform First Lady Pat Nixon of the final planning adjustments.

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Hello?
You get any reaction on that?
Let it go.
Oh, that's nice.
And do you think the library's the best?
I don't.
I don't think we'll want to.
Well, the library's a little crowded.
I just think they want to be there.
We'll be there.
The other crowds, if you find out when they arrive, they're probably 7.30.
We can look around.
If they arrive at 7.30, then we're not going around.
And then we just sit right inside.
Too hot for outside anyway.
I don't know what we're going to do, you know.
They sort of, they're corrupt sort of sitting in there every night.
Don't you think so?
Something I was thinking, I'm so pleased you brought up, that's great.
Is there anything else you could think of?
Like, I guess they won't be here Wednesday night, but we'll see.
Not that it will be.
Okay, I don't know what the fuck I'm seeing.
I didn't come to that reception, you know.
So, I stayed in the room, yeah.
And then, if something comes up, as I said, I'll go to the other place.
I'll run to the other place.
I'll run in Friday, and that's it.
I'll tell Pat, okay.

On June 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:40 pm to 2:43 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 255-013 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 255-13

Date: June 7, 1971
Time: 2:40 pm - 2:43 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Rose Mary Woods

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 03/13/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[255-013-w001]

[Duration: 1m 59s]

[See Conversation No. 4-54]

[End of telephone conversation]

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  • 004-054 2:40 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone from 2:40 pm to 2:43 pm.
  • 004-055 2:40 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:40 pm and 2:43 pm.
  • 255-014 2:43 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:43 pm and 2:46 pm.
  • 004-056 2:46 PM · 58 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and James D. ("Don") Hughes talked on the telephone from 2:46 pm to 2:47 pm.
  • 255-015 2:46 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and James D. ("Don") Hughes met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:46 pm to 2:47 pm.
  • 004-057 2:47 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:47 pm and 2:49 pm.
  • 255-016 2:47 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:47 pm and 2:49 pm.
  • 004-058 2:49 PM · 33 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 2:49 pm to 2:50 pm.

Conversation 255-013, June 7, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/255-013 (accessed October 26, 2026).