Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 258 › Conversation 258-005

Nixon & Woods on Staff management and Personnel issues

Monday, June 14, 1971 · 2:41 PM–2:45 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose MaryConversation258-005 on Tape 258 (tape position 00:03:25–00:05:02)StartMonday, June 14, 1971 at 2:41 PMEndMonday, June 14, 1971 at 2:45 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 258-005 ↗

President Nixon and his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, discuss personal staff frustrations and the management of office dynamics. The exchange reflects tension regarding internal personnel issues and concerns about the behavior of individuals with access to the President's inner circle. Woods and Nixon touch upon the difficulty of delegating these sensitive staffing matters while maintaining professional boundaries.

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I don't know what I'm going to do.
Do you know that she got in the queen's room again?
Do we know even that she's not a spin?
I'm talking about what Ben called her.
They know, but they know that I was constantly there this last week.
That's the other thing, so I don't think either one of them is my favorite.
They don't.
I can't take some time off, but I can.
You'll let them feel that.
You'll call them.
No, I said, I'm not going to let you or anybody else do this.
But if you would call or anything, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know anybody else.
I don't know.
Okay, bye.

On June 14, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:41 pm to 2:45 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 258-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 258-5

Date: June 14, 1971
Time: 2:41 pm - 2:45 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

Rose Mary Woods talked with President

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 03/28/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[258-003-w001]
[Duration: 1m 37s]

[See Conversation No. 005-063]

[End of telephone conversation]

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  • 258-002 1:45 PM · 24 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:45 pm and 2:41 pm.
  • 258-003 1:45 PM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:45 pm and 2:41 pm.
  • 005-063 2:41 PM · 57 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone from 2:41 pm to 2:45 pm.
  • 005-064 2:45 PM · 4 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:45 pm and 4:33 pm.
  • 258-006 2:45 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:45 pm and 2:58 pm.
  • 519-010 3:01 PM · 27 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:01 pm and 3:02 pm.
  • 519-011 3:02 PM · 1 hr 25 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, John B. Connally, George P. Shultz, Paul W. McCracken, Arthur F. Burns, Manolo Sanchez, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:02 pm to 3:29 pm.
  • 519-012 3:29 PM · 3 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:29 pm and 4:30 pm.

Conversation 258-005, June 14, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/258-005 (accessed October 12, 2026).