Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 258 › Conversation 258-012

Nixon alone in his EOB office on First Lady and Media relations

Monday, June 14, 1971 · 7:37 PM–7:41 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation258-012 on Tape 258 (tape position 00:23:17–00:26:05)StartMonday, June 14, 1971 at 7:37 PMEndMonday, June 14, 1971 at 7:41 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 258-012 ↗

President Richard Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon discussed recent media coverage, specifically focusing on a magazine cover feature and public reception. The pair exchanged observations regarding the quality of photographs and the broader impact of televised media compared to print. The brief exchange served as an informal check-in on their respective public impressions and upcoming schedule commitments.

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Hello.
Well, I know the cover was very good and light, didn't you?
Yeah.
I know, I know.
The black and white.
I know, but the black and white, you know, we were so used to color to be so much more spectacular.
From the other hand, there have been so many good things.
No, no, I just saw life.
It was written in a friendly way.
Great.
But I thought the cover of Christian was good.
Like, that's all that matters.
More people see the cover.
I bet this magazine was out so long.
I had more people today.
People like John Goldie and other people.
I showed people.
He said his 22-year-old daughter kind of looked like this.
The television, that's all that really matters.
The television.
What are you doing?
You've got a name after this today.
Yes, madam.
Keep your hope alive.
You got to go ahead and get phone calls.
Good, good.
Got a crazy deal.
Now, over the age of three, so long for now.
Well, one thing I just, that I just went through, was somebody mentioned to me that I was wandering.
I'm not sure she really even said it.
But, uh, she's going to be very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
How about this week?
How about this week?
They will be just like washing clothes.
Okay.
See you in a little week.
See you in a little week or something.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.

On June 14, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 7:37 pm to 7:41 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 258-012 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 258-12

Date: June 14, 1971
Time: 7:37 pm - 7:41 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 03/28/2019. 2m
36s segment cleared for release. 1s reclassified as a Deed of Gift Privacy (D) and will remain
closed as 258-012-w001.]
[Personal Returnable]
[258-012-w001]
[Duration: 2m 36s]

[See Conversation No. 005-072-w001]

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

[Privacy]
[258-012-w001]
[Duration: 1s]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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[End of telephone conversation]

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  • 005-071 7:22 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 7:22 pm and 7:37 pm.
  • 005-072 7:37 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 7:37 pm to 7:41 pm.
  • 005-073 7:41 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 7:41 pm and 7:48 pm.
  • 005-074 7:41 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 7:41 pm and 7:48 pm.
  • 258-013 7:41 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:41 pm and 7:48 pm.
  • 258-014 7:41 PM · 3 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:41 pm and 7:48 pm.
  • 005-075 7:48 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox talked on the telephone from 7:48 pm to 7:51 pm.
  • 258-015 7:48 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 7:48 pm to 7:51 pm.

Conversation 258-012, June 14, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/258-012 (accessed October 5, 2026).