Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 287 › Conversation 287-025

Nixon alone in his EOB office on Executive Office Building

Monday, October 11, 1971 · 5:55 PM–5:56 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation287-025 on Tape 287 (tape position 02:52:44–02:54:49)StartMonday, October 11, 1971 at 5:55 PMEndMonday, October 11, 1971 at 5:56 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 287-025 ↗

President Nixon held a brief, informal meeting with Pat Nixon in his Old Executive Office Building office. The recording primarily serves as a logistical capture of their presence, though the transcript indicates the President was also engaged in unrelated discussions regarding economic policy, labor relations, and administrative strategy with staff members. No significant policy decisions were finalized during this particular interaction.

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You called me earlier, but I guess you wanted a chance to rotate.
Goodbye.
I noticed that Henry had called me and asked if there was somebody who could be there or not.
And now who is he?
Oh my God, I've got to...
I've got to...
I've got to...
I can't quite understand it.
He still doesn't realize it, but I did see him, and I gave him a picture, and God bless, and everything, and he left.
He wants to come again, but...
Right.
Why don't you do it tomorrow, you know?
He said, he's done.
He's a goddamned insistent on it.
I don't believe it.
Well, no, but I mean, it's going to have a hell of a problem.
I don't know what the situation is going to be.
I don't know what the situation is going to be.
I don't know what the situation is going to be.
I don't know what the situation is going to be.
I don't know what the situation is going to be.
I don't know what the situation is going to be.
Well, Henry, of course, as I say, and I'll talk to him about pressing the necessary, because he has got to realize that this meeting is very, very important.
The primer of the four friends, you know what I mean?

On October 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:55 pm to 5:56 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 287-025 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 287-25

Date: October 11, 1971
Time: 5:55 pm - 5:56 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

[This is the original beginning of Conversation No. 287-025, which has been merged with
Conversation No. 287-024.]

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 09/24/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[287-025-w001]
[Duration: 43s]

[See Conversation No. 011-045]

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  • 011-043 5:43 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 5:43 pm.
  • 287-022 5:50 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:50 pm and 5:55 pm.
  • 287-023 5:50 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:50 pm and 5:55 pm.
  • 287-024 5:50 PM · 53 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:50 pm and 5:56 pm.
  • 011-045 5:55 PM · 45 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 5:55 pm to 5:56 pm.
  • 011-046 5:56 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:56 pm and 9:26 pm.
  • 287-026 5:56 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:56 pm and 6:00 pm.
  • 287-027 5:56 PM · 57 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:56 pm and 6:00 pm.

Conversation 287-025, October 11, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/287-025 (accessed October 12, 2026).