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Conversation 311-023

TapeTape 311StartSaturday, January 1, 1972 at 2:43 PMEndSaturday, January 1, 1972 at 3:56 PMTape start time00:41:38Tape end time00:49:08ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Kissinger, Henry A.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building
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On January 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:43 pm and 3:56 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 311-023 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 311-23

Date: January 1, 1972
Time: Unknown between 2:43 pm and 3:56 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.

[See Conversation No. 17-132]
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On that date, I've gotten all the information.
Let's see.
How free is going?
The following week, to catch it, you could say, perhaps,
As late as the 14th.
We don't want to go as late as the 14th.
I just think it's Sunday night.
That's the day of the Super Bowl, and I don't think we want to try to keep it that way.
You know, that's...
I played the proof announcement.
I wouldn't... Then with that, I wouldn't go on TV.
Something to be said for that.
The 13th gets a variety of papers carried pretty well, and that carries them through each family.
12 to the 13th, yeah.
Just make a routine.
In this instance today, I'm just not quite sure that I would do a night on 12th.
What we might do is to do the announcement, and then, if we are going to do each thing, you know, one way to do it is to give a double bounce on it, and to say, when they answer a question, say, well, I'm going to speak to that issue on two weeks.
But still...
...how to handle it in the State of the Union industry... ...and the importance of... ...really what that might be of concern... ...to think about the ways that... ...the State of the Union and the Congress... ...gets in as part of the State of the Union... ...and what to say about it... ...about Vietnam... ...Vietnam is not going to do much... ...if we just... ...if we just... ...if we just... ...if we just... ...delay the...
She delayed a trip announcement Tuesday, and I said, you just throw it in there, so you get it.
Maybe let that be, let that be a move to the, it's better to have a, an adoptive suite, you know what I mean, don't, don't get major moves out of it.
Yeah.
It would be probably the 12th or 13th.
Maybe if you would put the trip announcement plus the draft piece in, that would be a,
By the way, if we could do the group announcement and the draft case, then it should be done separately.
I'd like to have a state of the movement.
We're going to get so much more policy benefit from other things that I think we better...
I think that is going to be a good thing.
Basically, there's 70,000 more out of Vietnam.
You sure as hell don't have to say you're going to have to have more draft fees.
You can't do that.
You can't leave it out.
We have a gun, this time we want a gun in terms of how it can be done, and why it cannot be done, but this is going to buy us some time, and we desperately need that.
So I think before the time comes, we're going to do away on other things.
We're going to try to build a peace plan in around 2066.
Thank you.
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