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Nixon & Calhoon on Labor Unions and Marine Engineers' Beneficial Association

Wednesday, July 19, 1972 · 2:41 PM–2:42 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Calhoon, Jesse M.Conversation348-009 on Tape 348StartWednesday, July 19, 1972 at 2:41 PMEndWednesday, July 19, 1972 at 2:42 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 348-009 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with Jesse M. Calhoon, president of the Marine Engineers' Beneficial Association, to express appreciation for the union's support and discuss their political alignment. The conversation focused on labor politics, the potential for increased job creation through shipbuilding initiatives, and an appraisal of various organizations' non-endorsement strategies. The President encouraged the expansion of maritime activities and discussed the sociopolitical motivations behind certain groups' refusal to align with opposition policies.

  • Labor Unions
  • Marine Engineers' Beneficial Association
  • Political Endorsements
  • Job Creation
  • Shipbuilding
  • Maritime Policy

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Hello.
Hello.
Well, my call has only one purpose.
I just got back from California, and I wasn't aware of what's been happening.
I wanted to thank you for your very kind words on Saturday and tell you that I hope we can be worthy of the support of you and your people.
And, you know, those stories, you know, I mean,
to the right thing for the country, and we trust you to live up to what you believe in yourself.
All right.
Well, we hope to do even more the next four years.
All right.
I hope everything goes well.
And like I said, yours was, I'm trying to remember, close to the end.
I think it was one of your first statements that came out.
Now let's get all those boats built.
Get them manned and get going.
More jobs.
Got it just this minute.
Johnny was good.
What do you think it is?
Give me your appraisal, because I'm not quite familiar with that.
I thought it was for very, I thought it was a plus, because they didn't endorse the other policy, because they haven't done that for a long time.
So how do you appraise it?
Really?
In other words, they just were nice by not going for the other one, or they leave their international presence free, and their union's free, because basically they'll work for Congress, and some of them may even
We'll get some of those .
Right, good.
Oh, you might get .
Really?
Good.
Great, great, great.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, that's great.
So the International Scholars, well, that's really good news.
What, in your view, is the reason they can't take this?
Why it might not be paid better?
They really don't have defense, do they?
They're just tied to it.
And what?
Lifestyle.
Aha.
They just don't like the people around them.
Right?
Social and moral rights, right?
All the groups.
Well, anyway, we just...
I'm all straight forward and we'll look forward to see if we can get .
Okay, bye.

NARA Description

On July 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Jesse M. Calhoon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:41 pm to 2:42 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 348-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 348-9

Date: July 19, 1972
Time: 2:41 pm - 2:42 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Jesse M. Calhoon.

[See Conversation No. 27-12]

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  • 027-013 2:42 PM · 14 sec — the recording device engaged at an unknown time between 2:42 pm and 9:00 pm, but the conversation appears to be blank.
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Cite this conversation

Conversation 348-009, July 19, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/348-009 (accessed October 24, 2026).