Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 352 › Conversation 352-008

Nixon & MacGregor on 1972 Presidential Campaign and George McGovern

Wednesday, July 26, 1972 · 5:10 PM–5:20 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 6 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); MacGregor, ClarkConversation352-008 on Tape 352StartWednesday, July 26, 1972 at 5:10 PMEndWednesday, July 26, 1972 at 5:20 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 352-008 ↗

President Nixon met with Clark MacGregor to discuss campaign strategy and assess the vulnerabilities of Democratic challenger George McGovern. The two reviewed McGovern's campaign staff, his controversial selection of Thomas Eagleton as a running mate, and perceived arrogance among McGovern's intellectual supporters. Additionally, they considered Nelson Rockefeller's perspective on MacGregor’s performance and his interactions with a hostile press corps.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, guess what?
Thank you.
Well, keep up the good work.

On July 26, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Clark MacGregor met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:10 pm to 5:20 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 352-008 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 352-8

Date: July 26, 1972
Time: 5:10 pm - 5:20 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Clark MacGregor.

[See Conversation No. 27-91; one item has been withdrawn]

     The President's talk with Nelson A. Rockefeller
          -Rockefeller's assessment of MacGregor
               -Handling of press
                      -Hostility of press in New York

     George S. McGovern
         -Staff
         -Decision on Thomas F. Eagleton
                -Problems
                     -Abraham A. Ribicoff
         -Arrogance

                 -Intellectuals
                 -Compared with [Thomas] Woodrow Wilson

     MacGregor as spokesman

     McGovern
        -Vulnerabilities
  • 027-088 5:00 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Patrick J. Buchanan talked on the telephone from 5:00 pm to 5:01 pm.
  • 352-004 5:00 PM · 24 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Patrick J. Buchanan met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:00 pm to 5:01 pm.
  • 027-089 5:01 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:01 pm and 5:10 pm.
  • 027-090 5:01 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:01 pm and 5:10 pm.
  • 352-005 5:01 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:01 pm and 5:10 pm.
  • 352-006 5:01 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:01 pm and 5:10 pm.
  • 027-091 5:10 PM · 25 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Clark MacGregor talked on the telephone from 5:10 pm to 5:20 pm.
  • 352-007 5:10 PM · 4 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 5:10 pm.

Conversation 352-008, July 26, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/352-008 (accessed October 1, 2026).