Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 384 › Conversation 384-005

Nixon & Kissinger on Alexander Haig and White House administration

Thursday, December 14, 1972 · 1:39 PM–2:09 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 55 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.Conversation384-005 on Tape 384StartThursday, December 14, 1972 at 1:39 PMEndThursday, December 14, 1972 at 2:09 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 384-005 ↗

President Nixon and Henry Kissinger coordinated their schedules to arrange a follow-up meeting later that afternoon with Alexander Haig. The discussion focused on confirming the timing for this tripartite session, ultimately settling on 2:30 p.m. Kissinger was tasked with notifying Haig of the scheduling adjustment.

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All right.
I have, there's no urgency in time because I'm working a lot of year-end time and stuff.
But I'd like to have another burger round with you and Al sometime this afternoon.
Anytime.
Shall we say 2.30?
Or it could be 3.30.
3.30 is fine.
Well, then make it fine.
Well, no, 2.30 is fine.
No, no, 2.30 is fine.
2.30 is fine.
And you will call him and delay him right at the time.
OK.

On December 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:39 pm and 2:09 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 384-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 384-5

Date: December 14, 1972
Time: Unknown between 1:39 pm and 2:09 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.

       The President's schedule
            -1973 Inauguration
            -Meeting with Kissinger and Alexander M Haig, Jr.
                  -Timing
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
  • 034-077 1:39 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:39 pm and 2:09 pm.
  • 384-006 1:39 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:39 pm and 2:09 pm.
  • 384-007 1:39 PM · 52 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:39 pm and 2:09 pm.
  • 384-008 1:39 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:39 pm and 2:09 pm.
  • 034-078 2:09 PM · 30 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and William E. Timmons talked on the telephone from 2:09 pm to 2:10 pm.
  • 384-009 2:09 PM · 29 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and William E. Timmons met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:09 pm to 2:10 pm.
  • 034-079 2:10 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:10 pm and 3:04 pm.
  • 384-010 2:10 PM · 19 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:10 pm and 2:15 pm.

Conversation 384-005, December 14, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/384-005 (accessed September 28, 2026).