Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 395 › Conversation 395-011

Nixon, Rowan & Martin on Super Bowl VII and Television comedy

Wednesday, January 10, 1973 · 3:49 PM–3:50 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Rowan, Dan; Martin, DickConversation395-011 on Tape 395StartWednesday, January 10, 1973 at 3:49 PMEndWednesday, January 10, 1973 at 3:50 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 395-011 ↗

President Nixon met briefly with comedians Dan Rowan and Dick Martin to offer praise for a recent performance and discuss the production of a humorous skit for an upcoming event. The conversation shifted to sports analysis, where the trio speculated on the competitive advantages of the Miami Dolphins versus the Washington Redskins in the lead-up to Super Bowl VII. Nixon concluded the call by encouraging the entertainers to use their platform to showcase the scale and spirit of the United States to the public.

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Hello?
Well, I just wanted to tell you that if you're very busy, schedule is for you, the two of you, to take off the time to make that real hilarious skit.
I'd rather like everybody dreaded reaching the advanced age of 60 than make the best birthday ever had.
Yeah, I don't see how you'd be able to do it with such a lousy writer.
Huh?
Right, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I'll tell you, it was really great, and that question was the most important thing.
But when your two bases came on, I said, my God, we've got four of these guys.
So, uh, but it's really good.
Right.
Well, let me say this.
I hope everything goes well.
Okay.
Thanks a lot.
How many points?
Listen, I'll tell you, anybody that gives or takes, anybody that gives once is done.
On either side.
I think it's pretty even.
I think, just between you and me, that it's the moment that Miami would have to give an edge because they're younger and faster.
On the other hand, the Redskins have something going for them that could be the differential, and that is that they may be a little hungry.
You know, us old guys, we're very hungry.
Okay.
Oh, listen, after what you did, I incidentally mean, of course, you're going to keep it up.
You're going to remember that.
But I hope all of you can show the White House staff how big this country is.
Okay.
Bye.
Bye.

On January 10, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Dan Rowan, and Dick Martin met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:49 pm to 3:50 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 395-011 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 395-11

Date: January 10, 1973
Time: Between 3:49 pm and 3:50 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Dan Rowan and Dick Martin.
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                                                                           Conversation No. 395-11 (cont’d)

[See Conversation No. 35-124]
  • 395-007 3:35 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Melvin R. Laird met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:35 pm and 3:41 pm.
  • 035-123 3:41 PM · 6 min — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone from 3:41 pm to 3:46 pm.
  • 395-008 3:41 PM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:41 pm to 3:46 pm.
  • 395-009 3:46 PM · 26 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:46 pm and 3:49 pm.
  • 395-010 3:46 PM · 41 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:46 pm and 3:49 pm.
  • 035-124 3:49 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Dan Rowan, and Dick Martin talked on the telephone from 3:49 pm to 3:50 pm.
  • 035-125 3:50 PM · 34 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:50 pm and 7:28 pm.
  • 395-012 3:50 PM · 14 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:50 pm and 4:11 pm.

Conversation 395-011, January 10, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/395-011 (accessed October 11, 2026).