Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 401 › Conversation 401-030

Nixon & Sanchez on White House logistics and personal staff

Thursday, January 11, 1973 · 3:20 PM–3:24 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 13 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, ManoloConversation401-030 on Tape 401StartThursday, January 11, 1973 at 3:20 PMEndThursday, January 11, 1973 at 3:24 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 401-030 ↗

President Nixon met with his personal valet, Manolo Sanchez, in the Old Executive Office Building for a brief administrative interaction. The discussion primarily concerned a private food order for the President's personal files and sustenance. This routine exchange reflects the daily logistical support provided by staff within the Executive Office of the President.

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On January 11, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:20 pm and 3:24 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 401-030 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 401-30

Date: January 11, 1973
Time: Unknown between 3:20 pm and 3:24 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Manolo Sanchez.

       Item for the President's private file

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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

       Food order

[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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Sanchez left at 3:24 pm.

                                                              Conversation No. 401-31/402-1

Date: January 11, 1973
Time: 3:24 pm – 4:35 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

       Press relations
             -Clifton Daniel
                    -Ziegler’s meeting
                    -New York Times
                    -Compared to James B. ("Scotty") Reston
                    -Washington, DC
                    -The President's offer
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      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                         Conversation No. 401-31/402-1 (cont’d)

      -Son
      -New York
      -[First name unknown] Holloway [?]
      -Tom Wicker
      -Reston
      -Wicker
      -Support for the President
      -The President's newspaper reading
             -New York Times
             -Washington Post
-New York Times
      -Washington bureau
      -Advocacy journalism
      -John Appel
      -Relations with Nixon administration
      -Robert Semple
      -Appel
             -Attitude toward the President
             -Influence in Salt Lake City, Seattle, nationwide
             -Compared to Semple
             -Republican background
             -Intelligence
             -White House reporting
-Ziegler’s meeting with Clifton
      -Ziegler’s opinion of Daniel’s motives
      -Washington Post
      -Washington Star
      -Daniel compared to Max Frankel
      -[First name unknown] Cortsman [?], Eileen Shanahan, Francis L. Dale
      -The President’s newspaper reading
      -New York Times
             -Relations with Nixon administration
             -Check sources
      -Henry A. Kissinger
             -Joseph C. Kraft
             -Frankel
      -George S. McGovern
-Afternoon news
      -George P. Shultz
             -Congress
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           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                              Conversation No. 401-31/402-1 (cont’d)

           -Daniel Schorr [?]
           -$250 billion
           -Leonard Woodcock
           -Hubert H. Humphrey
           -Gerald R. Ford

Vietnam settlement
     -Adm. Thomas H. Moorer's press briefing
           -The President's meeting with Col. Richard T. Kennedy
           -News report by Robert Pierpoint
                  -Consultation on December 1972 bombing
                  -Administration response
                        -Ziegler
                        -Melvin R. Laird
                        -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                        -The President's position
                        -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
                  -Congressional response
                  -Public opinion
     -Haig’s role
           -Kennedy
           -William P. Rogers, Laird, Moorer, Spiro T. Agnew
     -Ziegler’s role
           -Public statements on negotiations
                  -Restrictions
                  -Congressional briefings
                  -Consultation
                  -Congressional testimony
                        -J. William Fulbright
                  -The President’s position
                        -Success of negotiations
           -Briefing schedule
     -Kissinger
           -Paris
           -Key Biscayne
                  -Purpose
           -Ziegler’s position
                  -Murray Marder
           -Telephone calls monitoring
     -The President’s schedule
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                     Conversation No. 401-31/402-1 (cont’d)

                   -Key Biscayne
                   -1973 Inauguration
                   -Messages to Congress
                   -Timing
                   -Marder’s story
                   -The President’s birthday
                   -Timing
            -Plans
            -Initialing of agreement
                   -Site
                   -Le Duc Tho
                   -Date
            -Announcement
            -Bombing halt
            -Kissinger's and Haig's schedules
                   -Haig's trip to Saigon
                         -Nguyen Van Thieu
            -Announcement of bombing halt
                   -Kennedy
            -Haig's Schedule
            -Thieu’s response
            -Possible announcement
                   -The President or Ziegler
                   -Thieu
                   -Kissinger
                   -Kennedy
            -Initialing agreement
                   -Kissinger's role
                   -The President’s role
                         -Cease-fire announcement
            -Signing
            -Thieu
                   -Haig's meetings
                         -Possible results
            -Announcement
                   -Signing
                   -Timing

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman talked with the President between 3:55 pm and 3:56 pm.
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                           Conversation No. 401-31/402-1 (cont’d)

[Conversation No. 401-31/402-1A]

[See Conversation No. 35-139]

[End of telephone conversation]

       Vietnam settlement
            -Public opinion
                  -Bombing effect
                        -Negotiations
            -Negotiations
                  -Haig
            -Kennedy, Haig
            -Rogers, Laird, Agnew

Haldeman entered at 3:57 pm.

             -Haig's announcement
                   -Bombing halt announcement
             -Confidentiality
                   -Kennedy
                   -Ziegler
                   -Ehrlichman, George P. Shultz
                   -Kennedy, Haig
                   -Ziegler's public statements
                   -Rogers, Laird
                   -Kennedy
                   -Ziegler's public statements
                   -Kissinger
                          -Reston
                          -Calls in Key Biscayne
                                -Kennedy
             -Calls to congressional leaders
                   -Timing
                   -Haig
             -Ziegler's public statements
             -Kissinger's calls to congressional leaders
             -William E. Timmons
             -Rogers's and Laird's public statements
             -The President's meeting with Kennedy
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      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                           Conversation No. 401-31/402-1 (cont’d)

-Kissinger
-Rogers
-Thieu
-Confidentiality
       -Press relations
       -Congressional leaders
              -Statement by the President and Kennedy
       -Kissinger
       -Results
-Kissinger
       -Announcement
       -Schedule
-Announcement
       -Ziegler
              -Cease-fire
              -Kissinger's schedule
       -Thieu’s cooperation
              -The President’s announcement
       -Kennedy
       -Thieu’s resistance
              -The President’s announcement
                    -Contents
              -Kissinger’s message
              -Negotiations
-Ziegler's public statements
       -Haig’s role
       -The President’s role
-The President's Inaugural speech
       -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-December 1972 bombing
-Kissinger
-Announcement
       -Options
       -Initialing of agreement
-Kissinger's schedule
-Initialing of agreement
       -Kissinger
       -Meaning
              -Compared to signing
              -Cease-fire
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                        Conversation No. 401-31/402-1 (cont’d)

An unknown person entered and left at an unknown time between 3:57 pm and 4:15 pm.

             -Thieu’s response
             -Ziegler's public statements
                   -Kissinger's and the President's schedules
                   -Congressional leaders briefing
             -Announcement
                   -Date
             -Haig’s return
             -Ziegler's public statements
                   -South Vietnam
                   -North Vietnam
                   -Kissinger's schedule
             -1973 Inauguration
             -Thieu
             -Haig's trip
             -Announcement
                   -Timing
                          -Thieu
                          -Haig’s trip
                          -1973 Inauguration
                          -1972 election

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 3:57 pm and
4:15 pm.

[Conversation No. 401-31/402-1B]

[See Conversation No. 35-140]

[End of telephone conversation]

The President talked with Kennedy between 4:15 pm and 4:17 pm.

[Conversation No. 401-31/402-1C]

[See Conversation No. 35-141]

[End of telephone conversation]
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           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                               Conversation No. 401-31/402-1 (cont’d)

Vietnam settlement
     -Negotiations
           -Announcement
           -Rogers
           -William H. Sullivan
           -Rogers's response
                 -Kissinger
                 -Laird

The President's schedule
     -Florida trip
     -Kissinger's schedule
           -Thomas W. Braden's dinner
           -Congressional response

Vietnam settlement
     -Negotiations
           -Congressional relations
                 -Possible appearance by Rogers
                 -Constitutional role
                 -Compared to an election defeat
     -Press response
           -[Arnold] Eric Sevareid
           -Walter L. Cronkite, Jr.
           -Harry Reasoner
     -Congressional relations
           -Constitutional role
           -Announcement
           -Thieu response
           -Haig's trip
           -Kissinger
           -Announcement
                 -Dates
                 -Contents
                        -Kissinger
                 -Thieu
                        -Leak
                        -Resistance
           -1973 Inauguration
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                     Conversation No. 401-31/402-1 (cont’d)

                        -Importance
                  -Ziegler's public statements
                        -Consultation
                        -Florida trip
                        -Kissinger

       Watergate
            -Congressional Resolutions
                   -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr. investigation
                         -Watergate trial
                   -Edward M. Kennedy, Henry M. Jackson
                   -Ervin
                   -Legislative priorities
            -Trial
                   -G. Gordon Liddy
                   -Donald H. Segretti
                   -Length

       Congressional relations
            -Legislative priorities
            -Confirmation testimony
            -Rogers’s testimony
            -Adm. Issac Kidd’s testimony
                  -William Proxmire
                  -Roy L. Ash

The conversation was cut off at an unknown time before 4:35 pm. An unknown portion of the
conversation was not recorded while the tape was changed.
  • 035-137 3:15 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:15 pm and 3:19 pm.
  • 401-027 3:15 PM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:15 pm and 3:19 pm.
  • 401-028 3:15 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:15 pm and 3:19 pm.
  • 035-138 3:19 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 3:19 pm to 3:20 pm.
  • 401-029 3:19 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:19 pm to 3:20 pm.
  • 401-031 3:24 PM · 1 hr 8 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:24 pm to 4:35 pm.
  • 035-139 3:55 PM · 17 sec — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone from 3:55 pm to 3:56 pm.
  • 035-140 3:57 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:57 pm and 4:15 pm.

Conversation 401-030, January 11, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/401-030 (accessed October 1, 2026).