Nixon White House TapesTape 451 › Conversation 451-005

Nixon, Haldeman & Butterfield on Public Relations and Vietnam War

Thursday, February 18, 1971 · 10:12 AM–10:30 AM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob");  Butterfield, Alexander P.Conversation451-005 onTape 451 (tape position 00:23:13–00:39:55)StartThursday, February 18, 1971 at 10:12 AMEndThursday, February 18, 1971 at 10:30 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 451-005 ↗

President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman met to discuss administration messaging strategies, specifically focusing on the President’s press conferences and public relations efforts regarding the Vietnam War and foreign policy. The conversation included a review of media coverage and the performance of key cabinet members like John Connally and Henry Kissinger. Alexander P. Butterfield briefly joined the meeting to coordinate logistics for the upcoming visit of Italian Prime Minister Emilio Colombo and a White House event for Irish Prime Minister Jack Lynch, during which the President reasserted his authority over guest list approvals.

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23:13And I don't know if you can do another day.
23:15Okay.
23:16Well, I guess we're going to do that.
23:17Now, I'm going to go to my car.
23:19Well, thank you for the question.
23:20Hi.
23:20Oh, John, how's the show going?
23:22Good.
23:22So, John, how's it going?
23:32I can't do it.
23:49First of all, I can't help you from having to sit around every once in a while, and I can't do it in a meeting.
23:53It's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just,
24:11And he loves to do this stuff.
24:13He loves to get in your back.
24:15You don't have to do anything, really, because you can tell that he loves doing these things.
24:21He wants to do that.
24:22I don't know if I'm going to do this now, or if he's completely free with that, but it's not good.
24:30And, uh...
24:32This is great because he's getting us around.
24:35He had some happy yesterday.
24:37I hope he does here in the morning.
24:40I hope he does in the morning.
24:42I hope he does in the morning.
24:45I hope he does.
24:5612-6-7-5-5-6-7-6-7-6-7-6-7-6-7-6-7-6-7-6-7-6-7-6-7-6-7-6
25:20He obviously is going to be close.
25:22He said that he started to work on the top reporters.
25:24And I don't know, he's going to help something.
25:26You know, that was odd.
25:27And Broderick, and he's doing the...
25:36Uh, that's where he can go for lunch.
25:38And, uh, he's got a... And I think the point of it is that he's got to be careful not to divide himself up too thin, uh, and get caught up between the street and the street.
25:48The guy on the other front, he said, absolutely, said, I don't intend to give any excuses in relation to that.
25:56So then, I mean, yeah, I can go in, and it's just, you know, some...
26:04All the fire back there, I think I ought to move up.
26:06And I'm starting to put them in.
26:11I've seen a few angels in the tracks.
26:15And I guess he's gonna try to do away with this.
26:17I think he ought to.
26:41There must be a state department, a bright state department guy who's like, cool, cool.
27:06I'm ready to go.
27:21There are some crashes that can be a problem.
27:22Do you know what a crash is?
27:23It's very sudden.
27:23It's pretty good.
27:24It's pretty good.
27:24It's very good.
27:24It's very good.
27:25It's very good.
27:25It's very good.
27:25It's very good.
27:25It's very good.
27:26It's very good.
27:26It's very good.
27:51If you're going to get involved, it's a current political crisis.
27:53I mean, the quarterback is really, I mean, he doesn't seem to be able to do his job because he can't think literally.
28:00I mean, he's in college.
28:02Now, if you were going to do that, you're going to have to do it.
28:04You're going to have to do it.
28:06So, I think he's getting worse.
28:12I mean, he's got a current law that says he's getting worse.
28:17And, uh,
28:18But we need to assess now, we've got an hour, potentially an hour of special face domain.
28:22In fact, next Sunday, we, Sunday, uh, on this day of the world, we'll see if we want to do an hour of face domain and access to DGA.
28:34All of this is not going to be considered.
28:35What you really worry about is that we're going to have to learn how to do it in this day of the world.
28:40I think it would be a problem.
28:42Now I think you probably will be one of those who cannot take me down right now.
28:45And you haven't heard of the message or something.
28:46I've heard it going on and on and on.
28:47I'm not going straight to the world.
28:49But I can recall those who splurged through it 100 times.
28:51I've not read it.
28:51It's a scene that surprised me.
28:52I heard people want to study comedy.
28:53That's exactly right.
28:54I think it's a good way to get ahead.
28:55First of all, I think it's a good way to thrive as a writer as well.
28:57And of course, I'm not going to put anybody on it at all because it won't happen.
29:00We won't be here that time of year.
29:01This is why I'm a girl.
29:02I'm the only one who can explain the state of the world to somebody else on this channel.
29:17He loves to get out of an apartment.
29:20I think that he's, this is why we're doing this.
29:26He's not going to be a senator.
29:30You know, this is going to be a personal thing.
29:36It's going to be very helpful if he is.
29:41who, uh, he won't let me get any busters from the staff team this morning, uh, he said, you know, I'm a little boy and I could give in to them, that you guys have been working on for two years, I'm sure, but I just sent you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,
30:09And when it's not that, just don't sell her out on the internet.
30:15He started to hear some ideas of ways to speak to us.
30:19And once he said, he said, all right, I'll give you some thoughts on that.
30:25He said, I'm just going to have to be careful.
30:27I'm just going to be careful.
30:28I'm just going to be careful.
30:29I'm just going to be careful.
30:30They want to go out and hear some chants.
30:32While we do have this problem with our sanity, it's not so great.
30:34They want us.
30:34They're loyal to us, but they've never heard about it.
30:36That's an absolute embarrassment.
30:37Christ, if I could go out every night and I was hearing a very good song, and I heard a good song, and I would wear all that.
30:41You go out and pray to God, and there's not a thing you can hold to this feeling.
30:53Switching right at this town, that's the way to Charlie's, and he said it's actually right in front of him, by the little people in the building.
30:58It'll be coming in at the end of the door, right?
31:00Well, then, why not?
31:01It'll be in front of you at the end of the door.
31:03The strong heat of the sun will blow it right in here, and that's what I thought.
31:09One bottle, 60 to 40.
31:11I want all of you to know that this is the word for it.
31:18I want to have people come.
31:31where you've got, you've got somebody all the time wearing a collar, that cuts into supplies and so forth and so on.
31:39You've got a whole review around what the, you know, you see what I mean.
31:46I sure do.
31:47At the end, you get a review, you spit it in, and it goes down in a, you know, a pretty cold blooded sentence.
31:51I mean, it's a thing I've done, you know.
32:01You know, there's a hell of a lot there to see.
32:35I don't know what you're talking about.
33:06I don't know if you can hear us.
33:15I don't know if you can hear us.
33:19I don't know if you can hear us.
33:26I don't know if you can hear us.
33:29On all three networks it was the lead.
33:34the leading story, top Vietnam, you know, they're going to have a lot of requirements, they're going to have to be off the other thing, they're going to switch it on the other side, he's looking at the timing on the leading story, which wasn't, he's right on that, but there were three or four other stories on the network, where a play back, I thought, here in this conversation, and in other words, they were doing something on something else, they were saying the president said it in the press conference this afternoon, so he kind of picked up through it,
34:05I think it was good that there were two leads in every newspaper apparently, or both of them.
34:11As it was the folks with the, you know, a warning and then I think it was the two cops, sorry.
34:20And I think it tends to have a lot of, on the covers.
34:33I think in comparison to the working press, judging the 37-year-old guy to be sure, to the fact that they are really terribly competent in here.
34:37And, uh, it does, you know, press you off, if you could, and you're offending people.
34:39But because they got a lot of ranking, even though I'm just here to say all the names of the guys that are here tonight, I'm not gonna lie to you.
34:43They are capable of that.
34:43By the time you're here tonight, Carl is about to come in.
34:44He's a slay.
34:45And, uh,
35:03I mean, I mean, Johnson and everything, you know, you know, Roosevelt just traded bars.
35:08I mean, I never did it at all.
35:10I don't want to say it's not common, but it's just a very impressive thing to think about.
35:16Rather, that's what she, very good, you know, ended this wrap-up and did a very good start.
35:20I mean, it's kind of, I mean, Roosevelt just was in complete command and, uh,
35:26urgent follow-up questions or something, you know, and that there's a very relaxed kind of press conference, and I really think that's something that's fairly relaxed.
35:39I don't know what he said, but I haven't seen him touch it, but I'm trying to figure out how to write it that way.
35:45But that's the kind of way that I think we'll kind of have to come through, and rather saying, you know, fresh and complete, and urgent, broken, you know, follow-up questions, you know,
35:54I'm going to finish this in a second.
36:11Uh, yeah.
36:14It's a...
36:15It's a...
36:16It's a...
36:18It's a...
36:26I don't know exactly what I'm doing, so the brakes aren't working for you.
36:29But, if you don't require it, I did it.
36:31I did it.
36:31I did it.
36:32I did it.
36:32I did it.
36:33I did it.
36:50That is about a minute and a half.
37:10It's matter of fact that I just saved you from the whole thing.
37:39We're going up to the, uh, uh, you, uh, talk to him about it.
38:05I will see the list
38:31Um, I want to see the list and I will approve the list.
38:41No audience to be invited there, you're not to be in the house unless I approve it.
38:44Okay.
38:44Um, well, I don't know what I need to do.
38:48It's the same way, and that's what you need to do.
38:49But I also hope that you got to do the mark-off list.
38:50Yes, sir.
38:51Uh-huh.
38:59All right, we're ready to go.
39:06Gentlemen, please head toward your left, please.
39:10Ready to go.
39:12Oh, yeah.
39:13Yeah.
39:14Yeah.
39:35There will be one handheld camera which will be covering the region of the prime minister and the car.
39:38And the other camera will be on the east stairway on the first line.
39:39Which is the reason we've asked you to descend to the west stairway, which is the stairway to your left.
39:42And we will have one on the front of the prime minister on the left side of the camera.

On February 18, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:12 am to 10:30 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 451-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 451-5

Date: February 18, 1971
Time: 10:12 am - 10:30 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

[Thomas] Woodrow Wilson Foundation speech
    -Woodrow Wilson Award
         -George P. Shultz

John B. Connally
     -John D. Ehrlichman
          -Event
     -Conversation with Haldeman
          -Activities

The President’s schedule

Connally’s schedule
    -Joseph W. Alsop
    -David S. Broder
    -Press briefings

Head of State visits
     -Briefing for President
           -Department of State personnel
                 -National Security Council [NSC] staff
                 -Compared to [Forename unknown] Cook

Arms control
    -Joseph C. Kraft column
          -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
               -Antiballistic Missile [ABM] views
                     -Soviet reaction

Media coverage
    -State of the world
    -”Face the Nation” appearance
          -Henry A. Kissinger
                -William P. Rogers
                -Melvin R. Laird
                -Conversation with Haldeman
    -Kissinger’s press activities
    -Peter G. Peterson
          -Public relations skills
    -Connally

                 -Public relations efforts
           -Administration efforts
                 -Laos and Cambodia
                       -President’s role
           -Alsop article
                 -Laos decision
                       -Kissinger
           -Administration efforts
                 -Peterson, Connally, Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
           -Vietnam
                 -Networks
                 -Newspapers
                       -Washington Post
           -Press appearances
                 -Lyndon B. Johnson
                 -Franklin D. Roosevelt
                 -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                 -Harry S Truman
                 -President’s previous press conference
                       -Dan Rather’s comments
                       -Robert B. Semple, Jr.’s comments
                 -Preparation

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 10:21 am

     Emilio Colombo’s arrival

Butterfield left at 10:22 am

                 -Preparation
                      -Questions and issues

     Evening at the White House for Prime Minister John M. (“Jack”) Lynch
          -Approval by the President for reporters to attend
                -List

Haldeman left at 10:30 am
  • 451-001 9:47 AM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:47 am to 9:52 am.
  • 451-002 9:52 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:52 am and 9:56 am.
  • 451-003 9:52 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:52 am and 9:56 am.
  • 451-004 9:56 AM · 14 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, William L. Safire, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:56 am to 10:09 am.
  • 451-006 10:30 AM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Mark I. Goode, and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:30 am to 10:36 am.
  • 451-007 11:13 AM · 1 hr 18 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Emilio Colombo, Neil A. Seidenman, and A. Jose De Seabra met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:13 am to 12:22 pm.
  • 451-025 12:22 PM · 2 min — unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:22 pm and 1:09 pm.
  • 451-008 12:40 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:40 pm and 1:09 pm.

Conversation 451-005, February 18, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/451-005 (accessed September 18, 2026).