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Tuesday, April 27, 1971 · 12:46 PM–1:10 PM ET · Oval Office · 31 sec

Participants[Unknown person(s)]Conversation488-021 on Tape 488 (tape position 03:00:52–03:01:23)StartTuesday, April 27, 1971 at 12:46 PMEndTuesday, April 27, 1971 at 1:10 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 488-021 ↗

An unidentified individual discussed the administrative burden of managing a specific building with President Nixon, expressing a desire to divest the administration of the property. The conversation reflects internal logistical frustrations regarding government real estate holdings. No concrete resolution was reached before the recording was cut off.

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I need someone to take this building away from us.

On April 27, 1971, unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:46 pm and 1:10 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 488-021 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 488-21

Date: April 27, 1971
Time: Unknown between 12:46 pm and 1:10 pm
Location: Oval Office

Unknown people met.

     President’s location
          -Schedule

The conversation was cut off at an unknown time before 1:10 pm.
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Conversation 488-021, April 27, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/488-021 (accessed October 10, 2026).