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Nixon, Perkins & Davies on Oval Office and Presidential Protocol

Tuesday, April 27, 1971 · 12:43 PM–12:45 PM ET · Oval Office · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Perkins, William; Perkins, Gary; Davies, John S.; White House photographerConversation488-018 on Tape 488 (tape position 02:57:06–03:00:13)StartTuesday, April 27, 1971 at 12:43 PMEndTuesday, April 27, 1971 at 12:45 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 488-018 ↗

President Nixon hosted William Perkins, Gary Perkins, and John S. Davies in the Oval Office for a brief, informal meeting. The discussion focused on the room's decor, specifically the presidential seal, and Nixon’s daily schedule regarding diplomatic ceremonies and the reception of foreign ambassadors. The meeting concluded with Nixon presenting his guests with commemorative gifts, including cuff links and golf balls.

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Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, it's the seal on the ceiling.
And the floor, excuse me.
Even though the rug's changed, this is the most important thing in history.
It is.
This gives much more color to it.
Well, it's very warm, too.
It's a warm pad.
And particularly with your backdrops here, it's very quiet.
It's nice for the day-to-day.
The entire white generation is moving.
You eat the style.
It's changing this time.
It looks good for a couple of days.
This is beautiful.
We don't want to take down a beer.
I want to have a chance tonight.
I want to give you a little memento.
These are the, you've seen that seal.
Here it is in complex.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate the mention.
Thank you very much.
Are you a golfer?
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
I'll give you something else.
Listen here.
Come on, come on.

On April 27, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, William Perkins, Gary Perkins, John S. Davies, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:43 pm to 12:45 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 488-018 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 488-18

Date: April 27, 1971
Time: 12:43 pm - 12:45 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with William Perkins, Gary Perkins, and John S. Davies; the White House
photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

     Introductions
           -Edward C. Nixon

     Photo
     President's schedule
          -Unknown man
          -Reception of foreign visitors
                -Ceremony
          -Meeting with ambassadors

     Seal

     Flags
             -Decorations

     Presentation of gifts
          -Cuff links
          -Golf balls

     Farewells

W. Perkins, G. Perkins, and Davies left at 12:45 pm.
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Conversation 488-018, April 27, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/488-018 (accessed October 10, 2026).