Conversation 639-029

TapeTape 639StartTuesday, December 21, 1971 at 5:58 PMEndTuesday, December 21, 1971 at 6:07 PMTape start time03:59:33Tape end time03:59:40ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  White House operator;  Mitchell, John N.Recording deviceOval Office

On December 21, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and John N. Mitchell met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:58 pm and 6:07 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 639-029 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 639-029

Date: December 21, 1971
Time: Unknown between 5:58 pm and 6:07 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with the White House operator; John N. Mitchell was present at the
beginning of the conversation.

[See Conversation No. 16-129]

                                                                              Conversation No. 639-030

Date: December 21, 1971
Time: 6:07 pm - 6:59 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John N. Mitchell.

     President's schedule
           -Meeting in Bermuda
                 -Weather
                 -Cooperation
                       -France, West Germany
                 -Public reaction
                 -Edward R.G. Heath
                 -Work involved
                 -Willy Brandt
           -President's past Christmas plans
                 -Eisaku Sato

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and John D. Ehrlichman entered at 6:09 pm.

     [General conversation]

     President's schedule
           -Swearing-in of Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist
                 -Timing
                 -Wallace H. Johnson

     Unknown person
         -American Broadcasting Company [ABC]

     The President’s schedule

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     John D. Ehrlichman’s comment on the President

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     The President’s schedule
          -Willy Brandt

     Jack N. Anderson columns
          -Use of classified documents
               -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA] reports
               -India-Pakistan
               -Washington Special Actions Group [WSAG]
               -Egil G. (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
               -David R. Young, Jr.

                       -Henry A. Kissinger
                       -Maturity
                 -Leak
                 -Source
                       -Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS]
                       -National Security Council [NSC]
                       -Yeoman Charles E. Radford
                             -Relationship with Anderson
                             -Gen. Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                             -Experiences in Vietnam
                       -Polygraph
                 -Adm. Robert O. Welander
                       -JCS
                 -Unknown person
                 -Radford
                       -Experience
                       -Polygraph
                             -Question on stolen documents
                             -Administrator
                       -R[embrandt] C. (“Hugh”) Robinson
                       -Welander
                       -Kissinger
                       -Haig
                       -NSC
                       -JCS
                             -Length of activity
                       -Kissinger
                       -Haig
                 -Young
                       -Report
                             -Interrogator
                             -Excision
                                   -Department of Defense [DOD]
                 -Haig
                       -Knowledge
                 -Source
                       -Activities
                             -JCS liaison officer
                 -Types

                      -Studies
                 -Young
                      -DOD interrogation
                      -Conversation with Mitchell
                 -Anderson
                 -Radford
                      -Knowledge
                            -Kissinger and North Vietnamese negotiations
                                  -Possible court martial
                            -Administration strategy

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[National Security]
[639-030-w004]
[Duration: 50s]

     INDIA

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     Jack N. Anderson columns
          -Use of classified documents
               -Richard M. Helms
               -Haig
                     -Call to Ehrlichman
               -Kissinger
                     -Informed by Ehrlichman
               -Radford
                     -Access

                             -WSAG meetings
                             -The Pentagon and NSC
                                   -Methods used
                       -Phone tap
                       -Possible arrest
                 -JCS liaison office
                       -Location
                       -Executive Office Building [EOB]
                 -NSC
                 -Robinson
                 -Young
                       -DOD
                 -JCS
                 -Prosecution
                 -Strategy proposed
                       -JCS liaison officer
                             -Proposed relocation
                       -Need for security officer
                       -Kissinger
                       -JCS
                             -Transfer of Welander
                             -Transfer of Radford
                             -Adm. Thomas H. Moorer
                                   -Possible discussions with Mitchell
                                         -Melvin R. Laird
                             -Discipline of Welander, Robinson
                                   -Necessity for discipline
                                   -Robinson
                                         -Cambodia briefing

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[639-030-w001]
[Duration: 30s]

     Jack N. Anderson columns
          -Use of classified documents
               -Military officer
                     -Attempts to acquire intelligence
                     -Charles E. Radford
                     -Robert O. Welander

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     Jack N. Anderson columns
          -Use of classified documents
               -JCS
               -Story
                     -US Naval action in Straits of Malacca, Bay of Bengal
               -Radford’s relationship with Anderson
                     -Welander
                     -Robinson
                            -Previous knowledge
               -Radford’s experience
                     -India
                     -Anderson
               -Anderson
                     -Possible prosecution
                            -Possession of documents
                            -Welander
                            -JCS
               -Haig
                     -Knowledge
                            -Tour of Vietnam with Radford
                     -Polygraph of Radford
               -Anderson
                     -Normandy
                     -Parents
               -Radford
                     -Age
                            -Religious faith
                            -Moorer
                     -Possible transfer

                              -JCS
                 -Kissinger
                 -Anderson columns
                       -Examination
                             -Young
                 -Robinson
                       -Relationship with Radford

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     Jack N. Anderson columns
          -Use of classified documents
               -Charles E. Radford
                     -Marital situation
                     -Finances
                            -Second job
                     -Bank account balance
                     -John D. Ehrlichman’s opinion
                     -Jack N. Anderson
                     -Interrogation

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     Jack N. Anderson columns
          -Use of classified documents
               -Radford
                     -Call to Moorer
               -Haig
                     -Involvement
                            -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                     -JCS

                       -Kissinger’s briefcase
            -NSC staff
                  -Helmut (“Hal”) Sonnenfeldt
                  -Kissinger
                        -Secretaries
                  -Haig
                  -John Negroponte
                  -Richard Smyser
                  -Col. Richard T. Kennedy
                  -Jack D'Arcy [sp?]
                  -[Forename unknown] Murphy
                  -Kennedy
            -Strategy
                  -Laird
                        -Ehrlichman’s telephone conversation
                              -John Glenn [?]
                  -Gen. [Forename unknown] Percy [?]
                  -Radford
                        -JCS
                        -Possible view of India
                  -Maj. Gen. James D. (“Don”) Hughes's knowledge
                        -Haig

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     INTELLIGENCE

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     Jack N. Anderson columns
          -Use of classified documents
               -Adm. Elmo R. Zumwalt, Jr.
                     -Involvement
               -Radford
               -Moorer
               -Zumwalt
               -Mitchell’s forthcoming meeting with Moorer
                     -Mitchell’s view
                     -President's presence
               -Documents from Kissinger's briefcase
                     -JCS
                     -Robinson
                            -EOB
                     -Welander
               -Moorer
               -Radford
                     -Possession of documents
                     -Interrogation
                            -Results
               -Welander
                     -Kissinger
                     -Haig
                     -Kissinger
                            -Leak
          -Candidate for NSC Security Officer
               -Charles Sither
                     -Ability

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     Jack N. Anderson columns
          -Candidate for NSC Security Officer
               -Charles Sither
                     -John D. Ehrlichman’s opinion of sexual orientation

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     Jack N. Anderson columns
          -Candidate for NSC Security Officer
               -Charles Sither
                     -John D Ehrlichman’s opinion
                     -The President’s question on conduct

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     Jack N. Anderson columns
          -Candidate for NSC Security Officer
               -Charles Sither
                     -John D. Ehrlichman’s opinion of sexual orientation

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     Jack N. Anderson columns
          -Candidate for NSC Security Officer
               -[First name unknown] Specter[?]
                     -Location
                          -Certification
                                -Hughes

            -Haig
            -Kissinger
            -Radford
                  -Tap
                  -Surveillance
            -NSC
                  -Welander
                  -Robinson
                        -Possible action taken
                  -Moorer
                  -Strategy
            -Kissinger
                  -Security
                  -Office
            -Interrogation
                  -Anderson
                  -Welander
                  -Laird
                        -Election
            -JCS
                  -Security
                  -Interrogation
                        -Welander knowledge
                              -Haig and Kissinger
                        -Robinson
                              -Involvement
            -Laird
            -Meeting with Moorer
            -Welander
                  -Transfer from EOB
                        -Kissinger's briefcase
                        -Radford
                              -Relationship with JCS
            -JCS
                  -Other possible activities
                        -Moorer
                        -Lyndon B. Johnson Administration
            -Recommendations to Mitchell
                  -Strategy

                        -Kissinger
                              -Welander
                                    -Possible interrogation
                              -Anderson
                              -Haig
            -Security officer
                  -Unknown activities
            -John B. Martin [?]
            -Welander
                  -Interrogation
            -Alger Hiss case
                  -Compared to Radford interrogation
                        -Knowledge
            -Welander interrogation
                  -JCS
                  -Relationship to Kissinger
                        -Strategy
            -Moorer
            -Haig
            -Kissinger

The President, Mitchell, Haldeman, and Ehrlichman left at 6:59 pm.

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