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And I was so glad that, you know, and Church, at first people thought he was really going to be fine.

You know, you expect him to dig the attempt, but he was just downright nasty.

And one person that I've taken said, well, there's only one thing left for him to do, and that is to sit on his back.

And then, when he finished, there was one soul in that room, and that's Peter's crowd, because it's double credits.

Not one soul stood up.

You've got to pause.

Nobody stood up.

And when Henry finished, I was in three-fourths of the room, and he stood up.

Of course, that's not the one in Texas.

It's terrible.

And Henry, he was playing, he was making stuff look great, and he did a great job.

I've become very tough this year.

I'm driving for order, climbing up the wall.

And then there are two, of course.

But I'm not doing any of these.

I'm sick of them.

I had White House correspondents.

They did a terrible thing last year.

I'm not going to do that again.

I'm never going to do it.

I'm not doing the radio, television, broadcasters.

I'm not going to do that.

It's quite tricky.

I can go there and have the presidency insulted and kicked around and have this antagonistic audience.

They're not for us.

They is...

And I don't reciprocate their hatred.

I treat them like I'm at a Christmas party, so that's what I'll be goddamned if I'm going to go to their party.

I'm not going to go to their party.

We have one problem with her.

She's not going.

And, you know, the president is a good friend of ours, Edgar Allan Poe.

Edgar Allan Poe.

So that's the way it's going to be, you see.

It's interesting now.

Well, I think that...

I'll give you a break.

I think Henry was exactly right.

I think he had a couple of partisan references that he cut off.

Because he looked, it made him look ten feet tall.

For him to get a standing ovation at the end of that crowd, he had to have shown the other man how to do it.

Because he was crude.

He was very crude.

A couple of seconds.

Over a thousand people sitting in a row.

You don't say that.

You don't say that either.

Did you talk to B.B.

at ISA?

Did he tell you that that case got put, the judge dismissed that case that stopped that, you know, those... No, he didn't know.

Well, he was so pleased, you know, but of course it wasn't carried on paper.

You know, he found a little reason to.

That one that I knew stopped, they almost made it look like he was still on the soft practice.

The judge at 5 o'clock that day, they went in like Monday or Tuesday.

Just that neither the fellow who had the stock, who was also fooled, you know, nor did he answer.

He said there was no case.

People had no case.

There was no evidence at all.

You know, it was bad.

With any thought of doing anything wrong, I might forget how it was, but Phoebe was crazy.

But he said it's a typical list.

Yeah.

That wasn't mentioned.

Wrote an old case about it.

Rains and rains and days and days, and in this mystification of sunfish, don't need to carry it on.

It's better here, I think.

Julia had a fine job in Texas.

She said they were all, she wanted to stay in this gathering.

They were all talking about the speech the night before and so forth.

There was a lot of talk about that last night with everybody.

With Ruth Hagee and her husband I saw again.

She was there.

Yeah.

And wanted to help the campaign.

And all sorts of people who said it was just absolutely great, and that he came across so beautifully as being so sincere, you know.

And the comments, luckily at the table, I didn't know who was going to be there, but Hart, who was supposed to be there, had told the people right up to the last minute they were going to be there.

Didn't show.

I'm afraid I would have had to get up and leave.

He's alright in the present person.

But he's the one who stands out as being holier than thou, and yet he's the one and the same as anybody who goes to him and says, they've got some problem.

He says, what's that for me?

And he doesn't mean for Indiana either.

He's very lucky.

And him at first line was cute, because first, I mean Church had it so bad, but he said what he said at first line.

It was very difficult to commit suicide after he'd been assassinated.

It was very difficult to know how to do something like that.

He really did a good job, and he's saying that, you know, he just gives an answer that anyone knows, anyone who's a professor at Harvard, has to be a little bit of a paranoid person.

And then some professor at Harvard had, the other day when I was talking to him, he talked about being with him, he said, that's the scariest thing of all.

Yeah.

And he said that myself almost thought it was the teeth.

You know, that was an accident.

I know.

I could tell it was.

But I think they did think it was the teeth.

But then that stuff with Vera Glazer was around the meeting, and she didn't really say it.

It was quiet enough, you know.

It was in the air.

That's too bad.

That was in the air.

It was.

I don't like her either.

Vera Glazer was kind of my friend.

She gets in to see all the people telling her she's a Republican.

She's about as much a Republican as I am a communist.

Oh, Christ, oh, she's a... She's never been a Republican.

She's worked for Republicans for months.

That's right.

She's a candidate that I have never given her.

I won't talk to her.

Don't do it.

I won't.

I don't intend to.

They're funny.

I'm here to say something.

I said, well, I just wasted her.

I didn't even go over to provide.

She doesn't have her part of the project.

I said that I'd be able to go up to Camp David today at the center.

Yeah.

Now listen, you're coming to the dietitian's dinner.

You are to come to the dietitian's dinner.

I told him, I talked to Colt Lewis last night.

You're expected.

So you can put your name in salt, and I'll let you know.

I didn't put any White House people on it.

The hell with White House people.

But you know most people rose for 30 years, I mean 20 years.

You know what I mean?

And Colt and the rest of them, I expect you to be there this year or not.

It would be a nice thing, you know, the losses.

It's a very good thing.

The others are not, you know, because they haven't known, you know.

Remember, the whole bar closes made it possible for me to be in this chair.

Oh, I love that.

They've been asking me all the time from 1962 to 1968 about the damn articles that I wrote.

I never forgot.

You know, Al Coles, our finance chairman, was a...

They made it possible for you to do the trips.

That's what I meant.

You see, I took the trips on their money.

But I don't, you know, I think you know that I never need to do it.

Yeah, but I think it's a good idea.

I just think it's a good idea, so I don't need to come tomorrow night.

Just put that on.

How about, Ken, do you want to go to the Amphibian or not?

It might be pretty good.

I'll take your word with you.

I was going to go to the opening of that Reynolds Gallery tonight.

It's a beautiful building over here.

Oh, wow.

Tell them to get out of there.

Tomorrow?

What's going on?

Well, I have to go to work tomorrow.

Oh.

I can stay back with you.

Why don't you keep it up?

It might be really lovely.

I'm going to start going.

I can't take it.

One day we'll see.

I'm getting prepared for time now.

I'll take the books.

I'm freezing.

Just take me to the top of my bed.

What time is he gone?

Oh, maybe two o'clock, three o'clock.

Is that him?

Three o'clock?

Yes.

How is he, three o'clock?

I'm so proud of you.