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Nixon & Bull on Ronald L. Ziegler and Press operations

Monday, January 31, 1972 · 4:03 PM–4:04 PM ET · Oval Office · 10 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation661-008 on Tape 661 (tape position 02:32:27–02:32:57)StartMonday, January 31, 1972 at 4:03 PMEndMonday, January 31, 1972 at 4:04 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 661-008 ↗

President Nixon summoned his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to request a meeting with White House Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler. The discussion was centered on preparing for an impending administrative announcement. Bull was tasked with facilitating this coordination with Ziegler before departing the Oval Office.

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On January 31, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:03 pm and 4:04 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 661-008 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 661-8

Date: January 31, 1972
Time: Unknown between 4:03 pm and 4:04 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     Request for meeting with Ronald L. Ziegler
         -Forthcoming announcement

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:04 pm.
  • 020-006 4:00 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 4:01 pm.
  • 661-004 4:00 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 4:01 pm.
  • 020-007 4:01 PM · 59 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Leslye A. Arsht talked on the telephone from 4:01 pm to 4:03 pm.
  • 661-006 4:01 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Leslye A. Arsht met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:01 pm to 4:03 pm.
  • 020-008 4:03 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:03 pm and 4:04 pm.
  • 661-007 4:03 PM · 3 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:03 pm and 4:04 pm.
  • 020-009 4:04 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stewart B. McKinney talked on the telephone from 4:04 pm to 4:06 pm.
  • 661-009 4:04 PM · 1 hr 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stewart B. McKinney, John D. Ehrlichman, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:04 pm to 5:05 pm.

Conversation 661-008, January 31, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/661-008 (accessed October 12, 2026).