Conversation: 685-003
Prev: 685-002 Next: 685-004Start Date: Tuesday, March 14, 1972 2:52 PM
End Date: Tuesday, March 14, 1972 4:49 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Kissinger, Henry A.; Sanchez, Manolo; Ziegler, Ronald L.; Bull, Stephen B.; [Unknown person(s)]; Morgan, Edward L.; Ehrlichman, John D.; Haig, Alexander M., Jr.Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:59:37
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:55:38
NARA Description:
On March 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Henry A. Kissinger, Manolo Sanchez, Ronald L. Ziegler, Stephen B. Bull, unknown person(s), Edward L. Morgan, John D. Ehrlichman, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:52 am to 11:49 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 685-003 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 685-3
Date: March 14, 1972
Time: 9:52 am - 11:49 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
Weather
-Spring
-Cherry blossoms
International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT] case
-Developments
-Senate
-Executive session
-John N. Mitchell testimony
-Harold S. Geneen
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 9:52 am.
Refreshments
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 10:06 am.
ITT case
-Investigation
-Miami
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-Typewriters
-Dita D. Beard
-Committee schedule
Arthur K. Watson
-Jack N. Anderson's article
-William P. Rogers
-Paris
-Watson's behavior aboard airplane
-Rogers
-Carl B. Albert
-[Thomas] Hale Boggs
-Edward M. Kennedy
-Chappaquiddick
The President talked with an unknown person [Henry A. Kissinger?] at an unknown time
between 9:52 am and 10:06 am.
[Conversation No. 685-3A]
Watson story
-The President’s view
-Anderson
-Boggs
-Albert
-John N. Mitchell
-Martha (Beall) Mitchell
-State Department
-The President’s view
[End of telephone conversation]
Watson story
-Kissinger
Martha Mitchell
-The President’s view
-Public appearances
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Tricia Nixon Cox
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-Woman’s Club
-Martha Mitchell
-Adele (Langston) Rogers
-Elinor I. (Judefind) Agnew
-Davenport, Iowa
-Request for speakers
-Martha Mitchell
-Elinor Agnew
-Adele Rogers
-Barbara (Masters) Laird
-Helen D. Bentley
-Marina von N. Whitman
-Martha Mitchell
-Whitman
Arthur F. Burns
-The President’s schedule
-John B. Connally
Watson story
-Anderson
-Readership
-F. Donald Nixon
Kissinger
-Marvin L. Kalb
People's Republic of China [PRC] trip
-Memorandum
-Press coverage
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] special
-Announcement of US-PRC channel
-Watson
-Memorandum to Haldeman
-John A. Scali
-Talk with Haldeman
-Press coverage
-Hugh S. Sidey
-News summary
-Kissinger’s possible television appearance
-Kalb
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-Stewart J.O. Alsop
-Sidey
-Television
-Kalb
-Lyndon B. Johnson
Kissinger entered at 10:06 am.
Kissinger’s possible television appearance
-Kalb
-Timing
-The President’s forthcoming press conference
Watson story
-News coverage
-Donald Nixon
-Pan American Airlines
-Najeeb E. Halaby
-Passenger
-Position
-Watson
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-The President’s view
-Stewardesses
-Stewards
-Eastern Airlines
Japan
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-American Assembly meeting
-Kissinger
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Rogers
-Schedule
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
-Richardson
-Kissinger's schedule
The President's schedule
-California
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Gridiron dinner
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-The President as Vice President
John D. Ehrlichman
-Work on economic projects
-Connally
Panda story
-Network coverage
-Watson and the PRC
-New York Times
-Kissinger's call to Watson
PRC contact with Watson
-North Vietnamese
Wall Street Journal
-Meeting with Kissinger
-Suggestions by the President
-Sidey
Kissinger left at 10:12 am.
The President's schedule
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Kalb
-Press conference
-Timing
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-Congressional recess
-Kissinger's schedule
-California
-Gridiron dinner
-The PRC trip
-The President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
-Kissinger's schedule
-Meetings with Power groups
-Dwight Chapin
-Chicago
-Key States
-Cleveland
-Philadelphia
-Economic clubs
-California
-New York
-Chicago
-Philadelphia
-Texas
-Houston
-Dallas-Ft. Worth
-Connally
-Talk with Haldeman
-Kissinger
-Dinner
-Kissinger's schedule
-Scali
-Kalb
Anderson story
-Watson
-White House staff
-Reactions
-Charles W. Colson
Connally
-Contact with Haldeman
Radio talks
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-PRC
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-Preparation
-Trilogy of talks
-Forthcoming Soviet trip
1972 campaign
-Contributions
-Statement
-William L. Safire
-Primaries
-The President
-General elections
Pentagon Papers story
-John F. Kennedy
-McGeorge Bundy
-1950’s
-Vietnam
-Declassification
-Campaign
-Counter attacks
-Robert J. Dole
-American Telephone and Telegraph [AT&T]
Pandas
-Network coverage
-PRC
-Crosby S. Noyes
-Washington Star
-Washington Post
-National Zoo
-Mating
-London Zoo
-Peking Zoo
-Baby panda
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Cage facilities
-Climate control
-National Zoo
-Tourists
-Names
-Chinese words for peace and friendship
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-San Diego Zoo
-National Zoo
-News item
The President's schedule
-Camp Hoover
-Distance
-Helicopter
-Camp David
-Visit
-Timing
-Dinner
-Testimony
-Announcements
-Forthcoming Soviet trip
-Busing
-Press conference
-Questions
-ITT
Busing issue
-Early morning staff meeting
-Richard K. Cook
-The President
-Television
-Exposure to the public
-ITT issue
-Congressional support
-John D. Ehrlichman and George P. Shultz
-Safire
-Democrats
-Request for equal time
-Speech
-Draft
-Price
-Leonard Garment
-Congress
-Timing
-Legislation
-Speech draft
-Wording of conclusion
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-Blacks in government
-The President’s view
-Liberals
-Garment
-Daniel P. Moynihan
-Ehrlichman
-Shultz
-Richardson
-Civil rights lawyers
-Blacks
-Jewish liberals
The President's schedule
-Business Council
-Cabinet members
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Herbert Stein
-[Peter G. Peterson]
-Haldeman’s view
-Kissinger
-Rogers
-Connally
-Peterson
-ITT comparison
-White House
-Peterson
-Possible domestic trips
-Chicago trip
-Soviet trip
-California trip
-Timing
-Themes
-Environment
-Law enforcement
-Black convention
-Concern
-Drugs
-Suburbs
-Possible Administration initiative
-Central cities
-Drugs
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-Environment
-Timing
-Reaction by the public
-New York
-Pennsylvania
-Ohio
-Pittsburgh
-New York City
-Televised press conferences
-The President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
-Trip throughout the US
-Purpose
-Press
-Washington, DC
-Congress
-Need for subjects
-Political rally
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
-Event in Birmingham, Alabama, May 25, 1971
-Official photographs
-Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins
-Howard A. Cohen [?]
-Photography
-Single portrait
-Atkins
-Arnold Newman
-Hollywood photographers
-Painting or sculpture
-Possibility
-American Medical Association [AMA] meeting
-Chairman of the Board
-Meeting with the President
-The President's attendance
-Colson
-Meeting with four outstanding young farmers
-Earl L. Butz
-South Dakota
-Time
-Directors of Honor America Day
-Meeting
-J. Willard Marriot, Jr.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-Meeting with Republican leaders
-Senate
-House of Representatives
-Meeting with Democratic leaders
Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 10:49 am.
The President’s forthcoming trip to Canada
-Announcement
-Gerald L. Warren
-Mrs. Nixon
-Attendance
-Confirmation with office
Ziegler left at 10:50 am.
The President’s forthcoming trip to Canada
-Ziegler
-Question
-Mrs. Nixon
-Constance M. Stuart
The President's schedule
-Interstate Commerce Commission [ICC]
-Donald L. Jackson
-Resignation
-Meeting with the President
-The President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
-Country wide tour
-California
-Organization of American States [OAS]
-Canada
-Philadelphia
-Dinner
-Sons of Italy
-John Cardinal Krol
-Frank Rizzo
[Forename unknown] Balteiri [sp?]
-Comparison to Knights of Columbus
-Time
-The President's attendance
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-John A. Volpe's attendance
-Presidential speech
-John J. McLaughlin
-Jewish editors
-Southern Baptists
-Philadelphia
-William F. (“Billy”) Graham crusade
-Dallas
-Southern Baptists
-Sons of Italy
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:50 am.
The President's schedule
-Ehrlichman and Edward L. Morgan
-Meeting with the President
Bull left at 10:57 am.
Sons of Italy dinner
Agnew
-Votes
-Network coverage
An unknown person entered and left at an unknown time before 10:57 am.
Paul N. (“Pete”) McCloskey, Jr.
John N. Ashbrook
Ehrlichman and Morgan entered at 10:57 am.
Busing speech
-Television address
-Price's draft
-The President's work
Haldeman left at 10:58 pm.
-Safire
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-Length of address
-Wording
-Time
-Briefing on legislation, March 17, 1972
-Draft
-Safire
-Third draft
-Length of address
-Cook
-Equal time
-Democrats
-Price's draft
-Wording
-Rights
The President's schedule
-Forthcoming meeting with Nassir Assar
-Central Treaty Organization [CENTO]
-Jack R. Miller
Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:58 am.
Miller meeting
-Kiwanis International
-Time
-Press photograph
-Atkins
Bull left at an unknown time before 11:49 am.
Busing issue
-Statutes
-Equal educational opportunity rights
-Tulsa, Oklahoma
-Phoenix, Arizona
-De facto
-De jure
-Courts
-Garment
-Mitchell
-Robert H. Bork
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-Law professor
-Constitutional issue
-Moratorium
-Parents
-Children
-Transfers from majority-status to minority-status schools
The President talked with Kissinger at an unknown time between 10:58 am and 11:49 am.
[Conversation No. 685-3B]
The President’s forthcoming meeting with Assar
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
Kissinger's schedule
The President talked with Haig at an unknown time between 10:58 am and 11:49 am.
[Conversation No. 685-3C]
The President's schedule
-Upcoming meeting
-Time
-Assar
-Nazmi Akiman
[End of telephone conversation]
Busing
-Children's age
-Grades
-Civil rights
-Constitutional issue
-Sixth grade and below
-Price
-Mitchell
-Garment
-Price and Garment
-Civil rights people
-Liberal press reaction
-The President’s view
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-1972 election
-Price and Garment
-Sixth grade and below
-Parents
-Percentage of children bused
-Percentage from previous year
-Liberals
-Speech
-Safire
-Wording
-“Racial balance”
-Bork
-James Coleman
-Moynihan
-Multi-racial experiences
-Virginia's governor [Linwood Holton]
-Holton’s previous conversation with Ehrlichman
-Black compared to white
-The President’s view
-Moynihan
-Intelligence quotients
-Japanese and Chinese
-Blacks
-British and Irish
-Edmund Burke
-Price
-Racial equality
-French Revolution
-Garment
-Liberals
-Speech draft
-Wording
-Changes by the President
-Brown vs. Board of Education
-Price
-Quality of black schools
-Money
-Legislation
-Sixth grade and below
-Moratorium
-Justice Department
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-Tupelo, Mississippi
-National Association for the Advancement of Colored People [NAACP]
-Desegregation
-Constitutional argument
-Supreme Court
-Congress
-Revenue sharing
-Welfare reform
-Desegregation
-No increase in busing
-Court cases
-Attorney General
-Tupelo, Mississippi
-Exeptions
-Attorney General of the US
-De jure segregation
-Additional busing
-Clark MacGregor
-Constitutional amendment
-House of Representatives
-Speech, March 16, 1972
-Safire
-Length
-Briefing
-Congressional leaders
-March 17, 1972
-Speech
-Date
-Briefing for key Senators and Congressmen
-Press
-Message to Congress
-The President's talk with Haldeman
-Lawyers
-Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
-List of all Schedule C lawyers in government
-Pipeline Case comparison
-Lands Division of the Department of Justice
-Finances
-Title I
-Congress
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-Districts
-Allocation
-Desegregation needs
-Poor districts
-Moratorium
-Use of word in speech draft
-Safire
-Soft version
-Liberals in the Administration
-Majority-minority transfer
-School construction
-Majority/Minority transfer
-Hearings
-Richardson
-Freedom of choices
-Jewish parents
-John V. Lindsay
-Forest Hills
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Black appointees
-Meeting with Ehrlichman
-Samuel C. Jackson
-Samuel J. Simmons
-Robert J. Brown
-Democrats
-Resolution
-Roy E.A. Innis
-Harlem
-Watts
-South Chicago
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 10:58 am.
Refreshments
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:49 am.
Busing
-Effect on black children
-Black universities
-Washington Post
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-New York Times
-Dallas Morning News
-Constitutional amendments
-Ehrlichman's and Morgan's work in the regions
-Editorials boards
-Michigan
-Poll
-PRC trip
-Black Caucus
-William G. Miliken [?]
-Poll
-Black caucus
-Ehrlichman in California
-Chicago
-Pasadena, California
-Pennsylvania
-Ohio
-Illinois
-Richard J. Daley
-The President’s forthcoming meeting with Assar
-CENTO
-Speech draft
-Safire and Price
-Changes
-Primary
-Domestic issue
-Regional efforts by the Administration
-Tennessee
-Kentucky
-Virginia
-Texas
-Dallas
-Ehrlichman's previous trip
-Editorial boards
-Television stations
-Luncheon
-Houston
-Black population
-San Antonio
-Mexicans
-California
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-Orange County
-Ohio
-Denver, Colorado
-Illinois
-Indiana
-Indianapolis
-Tennessee, Kentucky and Virginia
-Indiana
-Ohio
-California
-Texas
-Illinois
-Wisconsin
-New York
-Tennessee, Kentucky and Virginia
-Howard H. Baker, Jr.
-Charles H. Percy
-Roman C. Pucinski
-Conservative Republicans
-Loraine (Guyer) Percy’s forthcoming trip to the PRC
-Ehrlichman and Morgan
-Meeting with Colson and MacGregor
-Public relations
-Columnists
-Example of Kissinger
-Alsop
-Television
-Show in Dallas
-Questions and answers
-Herbert G. Klein
-Speech
-Ziegler
-Time
-Length
-Briefing of congressmen
-Briefing of press
-Location
-Message to Congress
-Speech
-Price and Garment
-Richardson
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 685-3 (cont.)
-Shultz
Social Security
-Shultz [?]
-Memorandum to the President
-Twenty per cent
-Connally
-Letter to Wallace F. Bennett
-Ehrlichman
-House Resolution [H.R.] 1
-Arthur S. Flemming
-Benefits
-Percentages
-Administration
-Congress
-Cost of living increase
-Shultz
-Connally
-William E. Timmons
-Veto
-Connally
-Meeting with the President
-Taxes
Ehrlichman’s schedule
The President, Ehrlichman and Morgan left at 11:49 am.