Nixon White House TapesTape 714 › Conversation 714-009

Nixon & Bull on John D. Ehrlichman and MIT

Thursday, April 20, 1972 · 11:46 AM–11:48 AM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.Conversation714-009 onTape 714 (tape position 02:35:33–02:36:21)StartThursday, April 20, 1972 at 11:46 AMEndThursday, April 20, 1972 at 11:48 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 714-009 ↗

President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate his upcoming schedule and logistics. The discussion focused on arranging a meeting with John D. Ehrlichman, specifically concerning a matter involving the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). The conversation concluded after finalizing these brief administrative arrangements.

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2:36:04Don't, uh, accidentally, all the blue people get to the president of Congress.
2:36:09That's the seal.
2:36:10That's the seal.
2:36:12You're a golfer.
2:36:13Well, I did play golf, though.
2:36:15You're a golf ball.
2:36:17Thank you.
2:36:17There you go.
2:36:18That's all blue time.
2:36:22Thank you.

On April 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:46 am and 11:48 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 714-009 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 714-9

Date: April 20, 1972
Time: Unknown between 11:46 am and 11:48 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     The President's schedule
          -Meeting with John D. Ehrlichman
               -Massachusetts Institute of Technology [MIT] matter
               -Location

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:48 am.
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Conversation 714-009, April 20, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/714-009 (accessed September 18, 2026).