Nixon White House Tapes ›Tape 794 › Conversation 794-015

Nixon & Bull on Photography sessions and Political campaign management

Monday, October 9, 1972 · 4:34 PM–4:37 PM ET · Oval Office ·2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.;  Nixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.Conversation794-015 onTape 794StartMonday, October 9, 1972 at 4:34 PMEndMonday, October 9, 1972 at 4:37 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 794-015 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to discuss the logistics of an upcoming photography session involving various political candidates and associates, including Louie B. Nunn and John W. Byrnes. The discussion centered on technical issues such as lighting and the need for re-filming certain sessions. Nixon provided specific instructions regarding the pacing of the event and requested that candidates understand the scheduling limitations.

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They weren't always photos.
They didn't come out.
There was one individual car, a Thompson.
He stopped to go to one hand.
I agreed to meet him.
Do you want to spend any time with none else here
They all understand that.
I just can't do it.
We can't because, of course, just be sure he knows there's a lot of people behind him.
That's your plan.
We're going to have none left.
I'll make sure he's next to Nelson.
I just don't want to reveal it.
We can sit and talk about it.
I understand.
I'll take my own time.
They all know that we can't do it.
They all know that they're just going to get rid of it.
Burns is going to get rid of it.
But I've got a full issue.
Bye.

NARA Description

On October 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:34 pm and 4:37 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 794-015 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 794-15

Date: October 9, 1972
Time: Unknown between 4:34 pm and 4:37 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

        The President's schedule
            -Photograph session for congressional, gubernatorial, senatorial candidates
                -Lighting
            -Robert W. Hirsch, Louie B. Nunn
                -Re-filming
                     -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins

                                        (rev. Nov-03)

                     -Carveth S. Thompson
                 -Pace
                 -Harry S. Dent
                     -Brad E. Hainsworth
                 -Nunn
                 -John W. Byrnes
                     -Harold Froelich

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:37 pm.

Also recorded on October 9, 1972

  • 031-028 2:20 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:20 pm and 7:08 pm.
  • 794-013 3:34 PM · 31 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:34 pm and 3:35 pm.
  • 794-014 3:35 PM · 24 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:35 pm to 4:34 pm.
  • 794-016 4:37 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Republican candidates for office, including Carveth S. Thompson, Russell W. Peterson, Robert Hirsch, Louie B. Nunn, Dave Towell, Gene Savoie, Harold V. Froehlich, James B. Moseley, Paul W. Cronin, Ellis S. Rubin, Joel Gustafson, Jack Insco, Russ Sloan, Alf Adams, John W. Byrnes, William E. Timmons, John C. Nidecker, Richard K. Cook, and Brad E. Hainsworth, met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:37 pm to 5:00 pm.
  • 794-017 5:00 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:00 pm to 5:10 pm.
  • 794-018 5:11 PM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:11 pm and 6:08 pm.
  • 031-029 7:08 PM · 46 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone from 7:08 pm to 7:09 pm.
  • 031-030 7:09 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 7:09 pm and 7:21 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 794-015, October 9, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/794-015 (accessed September 18, 2026).