Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 797 › Conversation 797-014
Nixon, Ruth & Branca on Baseball and Bobby Thomson
Friday, October 13, 1972 · 12:22 PM–12:40 PM ET · Oval Office · 17 min
AI Summary
President Nixon hosted a meeting with baseball figures including Claire Ruth, Bobby Thomson, and Ralph Branca to discuss the history and cultural significance of baseball. The conversation focused on iconic moments like Thomson's 1951 home run and Babe Ruth's legendary "called shot" during the 1932 World Series. Nixon used the occasion to reflect on the role of sports in promoting patriotism and unity, and he presented his guests with gifts bearing the presidential seal.
- Baseball
- Babe Ruth
- Bobby Thomson
- Ralph Branca
- Sports and society
- Presidential gifts
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NARA Description
On October 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Claire (Hodgson) Ruth, Bobby Thompson, Ralph Branca, Henry C. Cashen, II, White House photographer, Harry O'Donnell, Mrs. Patrick E. O'Donnell, and Tony Butrico met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:22 pm to 12:40 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 797-014 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 797-14
Date: October 13, 1972
Time: 12:22 pm - 12:40 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Claire (Hodgson) Ruth, Bobby Thomson, Ralph Branca, and Henry C.
Cashen, II. The White House photographer and members of the press were present at the
beginning of the meeting.
Greetings
-1954
Thomson’s pennant-winning home run in 1951 New York Giants-Brooklyn Dodgers
National League playoff game
-The President’s reminiscence
[Photograph session]
-Baseball
-Giants-Dodgers rivalry
-Johnny Mize
-Ty Cobb
-George H. (“Babe”) Ruth
-The President's reminiscences
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Autographs
Baseball
-The President’s television [TV] viewing
-The President’s letter from baseball fans
-Football
-TV
-Los Angeles Dodgers
-San Francisco Giants
-Washington Senators
-Texas
-Herb Taney [sp?]
Mr. and Mrs. Harry O'Donnell and Tony Butrico entered at 12:24 pm.
Greetings
-Harry O'Donnell
[Photograph session]
Baseball
-Walter Johnson
-Sports figures
-Off the field characteristics
-Drugs
-Patriotism
-The President’s view
-Sports as a metaphor for life
-John Roosevelt (“Jackie”) Robinson
-1947
-Joseph McCarthy
-Mickey Lolich and Carl M. Yastrzemski
-Previous visit with the President
-Vision
-Thomson’s home run
-Strike count
The President's athletic experience
Gift presentation
-Cuff links
-Presidential seal
-Pin
-Presidential seal
-Golf balls
-Presidential seal
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
Places of residence of Thompson, Branca, and Claire Ruth
-New York
-White Plains
-Plainfield
-Manhattan
Baseball
-Home run record
-Claire Ruth’s age
-Death
-“Babe” Ruth
-Henry L. (“Hank”) Aaron
-Age
-At bats
-“Babe” Ruth
-As a pitcher
-Boston Red Sox
-Win-loss record
-1933
-Pat Summerall
-Branca
-Robert W. A. (“Bob”) Feller
-Christy Mathewson
-Babe Ruth
-Aaron
-1932 World Series
-Charlie Root
-Chicago Cubs
-Los Angeles Angels
-Ruth’s “called shot” home run
-Veracity of story
-Norman Vincent Peale
-1927 New York Yankees
-Babe Ruth
-Earle Combs
-Lou Gehrig
-Bob Meusel
-Tony Lazzeri
-“Murderers Row”
Claire Ruth
-Expression of support
-Mrs. Nixon
-TV appearance
Thompson and Branca
-Size
-Baseball players
-Football players
-Larry Brown
-Washington Redskins
-Compared to past football players
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[Duration: 1m 14s ]
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Claire Ruth et al. left at 12:40 pm.Also recorded on October 13, 1972
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- 797-013 12:22 PM · 46 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:22 pm.
- 365-006 12:40 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:40 pm and 12:45 pm.
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- 365-007 12:45 PM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:45 pm and 3:00 pm.
- 797-016 12:45 PM · 25 sec — United States Secret Service agents and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:45 pm and 3:00 pm.
Cite this conversation
Conversation 797-014, October 13, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/797-014 (accessed October 10, 2026).