Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 797 › Conversation 797-013

Nixon & Bull on Public Relations and Bobby Thomson

Friday, October 13, 1972 · 12:22 PM ET · Oval Office · 46 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation797-013 on Tape 797StartFriday, October 13, 1972 at 12:22 PMEndFriday, October 13, 1972 at 12:22 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 797-013 ↗

President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to coordinate logistics for a scheduled appearance with former baseball players Bobby Thomson, Ralph Branca, and Claire Ruth. The discussion focused on the agenda for this meeting, which included a photo session and the presentation of commemorative golf balls. This interaction served to finalize the President's public relations schedule and ensure the smooth execution of the planned gift exchange.

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On October 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:22 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 797-013 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 797-13

Date: October 13, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:20 pm and 12:22 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

        The President's schedule
            -Meeting with Bobby Thomson, Ralph Branca, Claire (Hodgson) Ruth
                -[Tony Butrico]
                -Photograph session
                -Gift presentation
                     -Golf balls

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:22 pm.
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  • 797-011 11:45 AM · 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Charles W. Colson, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:45 am to 12:02 pm.
  • 797-012 12:02 PM · 18 min — President Richard M. Nixon, staff, and members of the executive board of the Utility Workers of America, including Donald F. Rodgers, Willie J. Usery, Jr., Harold T. Rigley, James Joy, Jr., Patrick Gallagher, C. J. Luciano, and Valentine Murphy, members of the press, and the White House photographer, met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:02 pm to 12:20 pm.
  • 797-014 12:22 PM · 17 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Claire (Hodgson) Ruth, Bobby Thompson, Ralph Branca, Henry C. Cashen, II, White House photographer, Harry O'Donnell, Mrs. Patrick E. O'Donnell, and Tony Butrico met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:22 pm to 12:40 pm.
  • 365-006 12:40 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:40 pm and 12:45 pm.
  • 797-015 12:40 PM · 43 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:40 pm and 12:45 pm.
  • 365-007 12:45 PM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:45 pm and 3:00 pm.
  • 797-016 12:45 PM · 25 sec — United States Secret Service agents and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:45 pm and 3:00 pm.

Conversation 797-013, October 13, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/797-013 (accessed October 10, 2026).