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Nixon & Dunn on Personal well-wishes and Health

Saturday, December 16, 1972 · 11:08 AM–11:09 AM ET · Oval Office · 54 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Dunn, Thomas G.Conversation825-011 on Tape 825StartSaturday, December 16, 1972 at 11:08 AMEndSaturday, December 16, 1972 at 11:09 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 825-011 ↗

President Nixon met briefly with Thomas G. Dunn to offer personal encouragement and well-wishes prior to Dunn’s upcoming open-heart surgery. Nixon expressed confidence in Dunn’s recovery, referencing his strong character and shared connections with Dunn's son. The conversation served as a private gesture of support during a difficult health challenge.

  • Personal well-wishes
  • Health
  • Surgery
  • Presidential relations

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Well, they tell me you're going in for that open-heart surgery, and I know that you don't need any good wishes because you're going to make it.
But I saw your son last night, admired his red beard.
And I said, can you tell your dad to have that old spirit?
Yeah.
Well, they all work these days, all these doctors and mutants.
When they've got a tough Irishman to work on, there's no problem.
Well, I know it's going to be tough, you know what I mean, but you'll make it.
Merry Christmas to you and a happy New Year.

On December 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Thomas G. Dunn met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:08 am to 11:09 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 825-011 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 825-11

Date: December 16, 1972
Time: 11:08 am- 11:09 am
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with Thomas G. Dunn.

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  • 825-014 11:09 AM · 37 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:09 am and 11:25 am.
  • 825-015 11:09 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:09 am and 11:25 am.
  • 825-016 11:09 AM · 24 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:09 am and 11:25 am.
  • 825-017 11:09 AM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:09 am and 11:25 am.
  • 382-001 11:25 AM · 38 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:25 am and 11:30 am.

Conversation 825-011, December 16, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/825-011 (accessed October 5, 2026).