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Conversation 867-039

TapeTape 867StartFriday, March 2, 1973 at 5:40 PMEndFriday, March 2, 1973 at 5:51 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.;  [Unknown person(s)]Recording deviceOval Office
AudioNARA Description

On March 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:40 pm to 5:51 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 867-039 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 867-39

Date: March 2, 1973
Time: 5:40 pm and 5:51 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       President's radio speech
             -Final copy

       George Foreman
            -Attendance at Evening at White House
            -Meeting with President and Congresswoman Barbara Jordan
                  -Length
                  -Time

       President’s schedule
             -Quadriad meeting
             -Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr.
             -Swearing-in of Bradford Cook
                   -Securities and Exchange Commission [SEC] chairman
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     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                        (rev. June-2010)
                                              Conversation No. 867-39 (cont’d)

      -President's attendance
-Afternoon
      -Taping of community development message
-Monday
-Camp David
      -Rose Mary Woods
      -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
      -Secretary
      -President's return
-Meeting with Food Advisory Panel of Cost of Living Council [COLC]
      -Length
      -Press photographer
-Tuesday
      -Mrs. William P. Rogers's luncheon
            -Cabinet wives
            -President's telephone call
-Thursday
      -Courtesy meeting on budget with John L. McClellan and Milton R. Young
            -Budget, appropriations
            -Length
-Henry L. Manfredi Award to Tummillo family [Treasury Department]
      -Death in narcotics law enforcement raid
            -New York
      -President’s crime and drug speech
            -Award presentation

-Presidential Management Improvement Awards presentation
      -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
      -Roy L. Ash, Caspar W. (‘Cap”) Weinberger, Frederic C. Malek
      -Length
-Retarded poster child
      -Desirability of ceremony
            -Haldeman’s opinion
      -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s attendance
            -1969, 1970
            -Photographs
-Council of Economic Advisors [CEA]
      -Ezra Solomon's last day
      -Scheduled taping of statement on role of government
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      (rev. June-2010)
                                                             Conversation No. 867-39 (cont’d)

                 -Breakfast meeting
                 -Herbert Stein
                        -Members' wives
            -Solomon
                 -Evening at the White House
                        -Invitation
            -Leadership meeting
                 -William E. Timmons
                        -Meeting with congressional relations staff
                              -Necessity
                              -Timmons’s briefing
            -Evening at White House
                 -Introductions
                        -Maurice H. Stans, Herbert W. Kalmbach
                 -Entertainment
                        -Army Chorus, Sea Chanters

       Charles L. Ill
            -Departure from post

       Executive privilege
            -Statement

An unknown person [Haldeman?] entered at an unknown time after 5:40 pm.

       Charles Ill
            -Under Secretary of the Navy
                   -Departure from post
            -Henry M . (“Scoop”) Jackson [?]

       Retarded child
            -Poster
            -Schedule

Bull and the unknown person [Haldeman?] left at 5:51 pm.
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      (rev. June-2010)
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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I don't think that radio speech, I don't want to get that done, so we're going to raise it.
Is that a final comment?
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
George Gordon, heavyweight champion, is in town.
He will be attending tomorrow night's evening at the White House.
He's a real fine American.
He just won in 1979.
I don't know about you.
I'm going to suggest that the great attention is tomorrow.
I'm going to be glad he's coming.
I'm going to be glad he's coming.
I'm going to be glad he's coming.
I'm going to be glad he's coming.
I don't think it's just 10 minutes.
I'd like to have it sort of as a half hour, and that's as long as it keeps up my talk.
We'll put that down.
What time are you going to ask?
Let me ask the time.
Tomorrow's the quadrant meeting at 10.
All right.
Just a little meeting with Jack Dreyfuss at 1130.
Swearing in ceremony for Brad Cook.
That's just a brief one in the new SEC chair.
I don't have to do that one.
Good God, no, I don't swear in the SEC chair.
All right, all right.
The money we're keeping totally clear.
That's right.
I will see that Monday.
Would you like to invite Rose Woods to go up this weekend to Camp David, Mr. President?
Yes, she can go.
Well, no, Mrs. Nixon's not going, so I don't know.
I mean, she won't.
I won't hand it over.
She's welcome to go, but we'll send another secretary if she has to.
I will send it.
That's right.
Somebody so she can have dinner with us.
Mr. President, would you use the gesture?
Sure.
She wants to go.
I'm not going.
I'll go back.
I'm on the act.
I'm playing.
She's an advisor.
I said take another secretary with you.
In order to monetize your concern with food prices, it's been proposed that you spend ten minutes open at a meeting with the food advising panel across the system.
Thank you.
Tuesday afternoon, Mrs.
Rush is having a lunch at her home for the new cabinet wives.
And it's been proposed that sometimes during a luncheon, you telephone her and emphasize the importance of the next four years' administration contribution to wives.
Good, good.
Not a public call.
Sure, sure, of course.
That's easy to do.
Moving on to Thursday's courtesy meeting with Sons of Parliament and Young.
It's basically a courtesy meeting, general discussion of the budget corruption, as well as their support of all the line-on excess appropriations.
You've got to figure out what at least three quarters of an hour.
Back in October, there was a drug raid.
up in New York, where one agent was killed and another one got convicted.
And we postpone the consideration of presenting this Hank Manfredi Award to the Treasury Department Award to the family and to the men.
Now, this will be coming right on the eve of your crime and drug speech.
And we tend to...
This is a proposal that Bob Baldwin poses.
He doesn't feel that it's necessary, but he recommended it by Roy Ash.
That's the line from Fred Mellon.
He wants to present the 1972 Presidential Management Improvement Awards.
These are two 10 awards that will be given to some federal career employees in addition to service to public management.
We've probably 10 minutes or
The retarded poster child, that's the child we didn't see a couple of years ago.
No, I did see him.
Yes, sir.
I did the next year because of that, right?
I remember we brought him in the next year.
We didn't see him one time.
We didn't see him.
We've seen him since.
Do you want me to do it again?
Yes, sir.
Bob's comment was, it's probably better to do it than take the heat from not doing it.
I realize that we've done a lot of poster children, and we've done the retarded children, I guess now.
Three years.
Yes.
Who's insisting on this?
Well, she started in 1969, 1970.
So I guess that's enough.
No, no more.
That's enough.
Well, I don't think we should have to recharge it.
That's a very bad idea.
That's just an .
That should be a very .
I don't care what they do.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
No, it's .
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if it is such an institute to murder you and the economic problems that they say.
Sure, sure.
Looking ahead to that day, this CDA game would be the only other event besides taking the role of government station.
Hmm.
Well, if it's the 16th, let me suggest
I'd like to have them for breakfast.
I'd like to speak to them.
And you can speak to her sign and tell them that they would like them, just to make them more.
I mean, it could be a business session as well, but I wouldn't mind inviting their wives for breakfast, too.
But if he just thinks it would be better for the four of us, it's fine.
I'm delighted to do it.
If he is leaving too, I want him included in the evening at the White House.
That Saturday evening, including the evening at the White House this Saturday.
Just prior to the last leadership meeting, I think that you mentioned to Tim that this might be at the same time, five or ten minutes with the Russian relations staff prior to a leader meeting.
Now, this is Tuesday.
We just had Scott.
Oh, we don't hear that.
Well, I don't care.
They need it.
Whatever.
No, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Matt, at least you can read the background, I'm sure.
But if Tim is 60, I mean, it's fine.
You know, I'll get it.
I don't know what that is.
I don't like the sea challenge as well.
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you, Jack.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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