Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 886 › Conversation 886-005

Nixon & Bull on George P. Shultz and Arthur F. Burns

Wednesday, March 21, 1973 · 8:27 AM–9:15 AM ET · Oval Office · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation886-005 on Tape 886StartWednesday, March 21, 1973 at 8:27 AMEndWednesday, March 21, 1973 at 9:15 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 886-005 ↗

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President Nixon met with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to conduct a comprehensive review and reorganization of his daily schedule. The discussion focused on rescheduling several high-level meetings, specifically regarding interactions with Secretary of the Treasury George P. Shultz and Federal Reserve Chairman Arthur F. Burns. Nixon instructed Bull to clear his calendar through Thursday and finalize arrangements for a private meeting with Shultz at the White House.

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Thank you.

What I'd like, in this way, the management thank you from her is all this here.

She has that position.

These are us, the man is here, as I see.

I'd like to be able to put them all in here, you know, on the right side of the picture.

I don't know if you have something else.

There's, you know, we just have a, there's a settler in, uh, I'm not sure.

This is the one right here.

The, uh, new commercial academy.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, suppose if you could go up and left, there you go, right?

Right, go on the block.

And we'd like to move everything until, uh, clear Friday, conclusion.

Now, on Friday, instead of, I, I, I, I just find out when Schultz got there.

That's a good sign.

Fine.

That's a good sign with Burns and so forth.

I don't want to see him with Burns.

I just want to see Schultz all, so, all the way morning.

Or is it Burns I'm saying?

I don't know.

I assume that if you can't see Schultz, uh,

Thursday night, that's what you'd like to do.

Thursday night, what I'd like to do would be to go to Andrews and call him there.

No, I'll see him here.

It'd be better here.

Have you seen me in the morning?

In the morning?

At 8.30.

I'll still check with you.

I'll be here at 10 o'clock.

I don't want to.

I don't believe Burns is there, sir.

I believe he is in Washington.

Is he called down to the bank?

Well, let me check and see who's with Secretary Schultz here.

Yeah, I mean, my father was in Washington.

Your father was in Washington.

You've got the word on it, but I'll need to talk to her about it first, if I could, to see if we can get something out of it.

All right.

So anyway, you've cleared everything else, if you will, through Thursday.

You haven't started yet, very much.

Do you want to see her open then?

What?

Do you want to see her open then?

Well, when he's free, yes.

I mean...

NARA Description

On March 21, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:27 am and 9:15 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 886-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 886-5

Date: March 21, 1973
Time: Unknown between 8:27 am and 9:15 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       President's schedule
             -Change in plans
             -Labor Management Advisory Board
             -Rescheduling
             -Congressional Campaign Committee
             -Meeting with George P. Shultz
                    -Arthur F. Burns
                    -Location
                         -Andrews Air Force Base
             -Burns
                    -Location
             -Shultz
                    -Meeting with President
                                               -5-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                            Conversation No. 886-5 (cont’d)

             -President's meeting with John D. Ehrlichman
             -Rescheduling
             -President's meeting with Ehrlichman

Bull left at an unknown time before 9:15 am.

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886-006 8:27 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:27 am and 9:15 am.
886-007 9:15 AM · 57 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:15 am and 10:12 am.
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886-009 11:55 AM · 41 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:55 am and 11:57 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 886-005, March 21, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/886-005 (accessed October 12, 2026).