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Nixon phone call with Haldeman on Civil Unrest and Law and Order

Tuesday, May 4, 1971 · 7:49 PM–7:52 PM ET · White House Telephone · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Conversation002-080 on Tape 2 (tape position 03:02:24–03:04:55)StartTuesday, May 4, 1971 at 7:49 PMEndTuesday, May 4, 1971 at 7:52 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 002-080 ↗

President Nixon and H.R. Haldeman discuss the administration’s strategy for responding to ongoing civil unrest and related legal issues, specifically advising a steadfast, "hard line" approach. Nixon emphasizes his refusal to yield to domestic critics or "do-good" lawyers, maintaining that the administration must prioritize public order over political optics. The conversation serves to reinforce internal resolve and ensure that subordinates remain committed to this firm stance despite negative media coverage.

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Oh, yes, sir.
I was just checking on the latest reports here.
Just take the hard line.
Don't be worried about all that.
Force the Democrats.
to take that line to my point.
Now, I know we're on the right track.
Just keep right on it.
Don't worry about the flight.
Don't you agree?
Absolutely.
No question at all.
Don't let anybody get excited about it.
You may or may not, but if they do, I know what the country feels.
Don't give an inch on this.
People have broken the law.
People want to hurt it up.
They don't worry about due process.
They just want to hurt it.
Particularly, we're not going to put them away.
We're just going to put them in for a day and then release them.
I don't think they got a prayer of giving them mileage out of that.
Well, they're playing at John Ehrlichman's home very heavily on TV tonight.
They play Dallas on the local TV, and that wasn't played out at all.
It didn't?
No, but...
They had the local, you know, do-good crybaby lawyers out.
Good.
You see my point?
I don't want any of our people...
It didn't do them any credit, huh?
Well, my point is...
There's a hard line in this thing that's given me strength.
And I start to apologize to the network.
And I try to keep track of those and all that people and finish them as quickly as I can.
That's what I'm trying to do.
And maybe I can do it.
I don't know if I can do it twice.
I just can't do it once.
And I've tried to do it once.
Right.
Keep that in mind.
You've got a lot of credit.
You're going to stay right with it.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Okay.
Right.
Bye.

On May 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 7:49 pm to 7:52 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 002-080 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 2-80

Date: May 4, 1971
Time: 7:49 pm - 7:52 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under court order from
December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums, et al. v. James M.
Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration produced this
transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]
  • 490-024 3:07 PM — President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, John D. Ehrlichman, George P. Shultz, unknown person(s), Ronald L. Ziegler, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, Stephen B. Bull, Walter E. Washington, Arthur F. Burns, Paul W. McCracken, Paul A. Volcker, Richard G. Kleindienst, and John B. Connally met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:07 pm to 6:19 pm.
  • 002-073 4:10 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:10 pm and 4:20 pm.
  • 002-074 4:20 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Walter E. Washington talked on the telephone from 4:20 pm to 4:22 pm.
  • 002-075 4:22 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:22 pm and 4:27 pm.
  • 002-076 4:29 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Richard G. Kleindienst talked on the telephone from 4:29 pm to 4:31 pm.
  • 002-077 4:31 PM · 4 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:31 pm and 7:46 pm.
  • 002-078 7:46 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John B. Connally talked on the telephone from 7:46 pm to 7:47 pm.
  • 002-079 7:47 PM · 3 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 7:47 pm and 7:49 pm.

Conversation 002-080, May 4, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/002-080 (accessed October 12, 2026).