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Nixon phone call with Rebozo on personal communication and White House Tapes

Thursday, September 30, 1971 · 2:12 PM–2:15 PM ET · White House Telephone · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Rebozo, Charles G. ("Bebe")Conversation010-038 on Tape 10 (tape position 01:19:35–01:22:21)StartThursday, September 30, 1971 at 2:12 PMEndThursday, September 30, 1971 at 2:15 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 010-038 ↗

President Richard Nixon spoke with his close confidant Bebe Rebozo regarding personal matters. The conversation lasted less than three minutes and consisted entirely of withdrawn content. No substantive policy discussions or administrative decisions were recorded in this exchange.

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On September 30, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo talked on the telephone from 2:12 pm to 2:15 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 010-038 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 10-38

Date: September 30, 1971
Time: 2:12 pm - 2:15 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo.

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Conversation 010-038, September 30, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/010-038 (accessed September 28, 2026).