Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 15 › Conversation 015-104

Nixon phone call with Haldeman on Economic Policy and White House Staffing

Monday, November 22, 1971 · 4:31 PM–4:32 PM ET · White House Telephone · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Conversation015-104 on Tape 15 (tape position 03:20:41–03:22:17)StartMonday, November 22, 1971 at 4:31 PMEndMonday, November 22, 1971 at 4:32 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 015-104 ↗

President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman coordinate a follow-up briefing regarding a meeting between John Connally, George Shultz, and Henry Kissinger. Haldeman proposes a preliminary debriefing involving himself, Donald Rumsfeld, and Charles Colson, but Nixon insists on the importance of Connally’s direct participation in the final policy discussions. The President directs the group to proceed with their scheduled meeting while scheduling an interim briefing with Haldeman to prepare for a larger, formal sit-down with the full group.

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Mr. Haldeman.
Yes, sir.
How's your meeting coming?
Fine.
We're at Secretary Connolly's office, and we've just finished.
He is supposed to be meeting now with Schultz and Kissinger.
Yeah, I know.
And we thought Rumsfeld and Colson, I could come over and fill you in if you want to, or Connolly and Schultz can cover you in the morning, whichever you prefer.
tonight.
Well, what do you think?
We can give you a pretty quick rundown on what we cover.
We're in basic agreement on where we stand and what we ought to do.
Well, the only thing is, I think it's rather important that Connelly participate in anything on this.
You know what I mean?
But...
He has on this, and...
You know, we can then go to whatever you want to do.
What do you think it would be useful to do?
Both times, both ways.
John and George and Henry apparently do need to get together on something, so they're here standing by now.
Yeah.
Well, that's fine.
Sure, have them go right ahead with their meeting.
And...
I'll tell you, why don't you do this, have them go ahead with their meeting, and so that it isn't another, why don't you come in, fill me in a little on it.
Okay.
That'll be better, and then, because I do feel it when I, that I should sit with Connolly and the whole group.
Right, right.
So that I get the fine.
Okay.

On November 22, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 4:31 pm to 4:32 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 015-104 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 15-104

Date: November 22, 1971
Time: 4:31 pm - 4:32 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator.

     H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

The President talked with Haldeman.

[See also Conversation No. 622-10]

     Haldeman's meeting with John B. Connally
          -Connally's forthcoming meeting with George P. Shultz and Henry A. Kissinger
          -Briefing for the President
                -Haldeman, Donald H. Rumsfeld and Charles W. Colson
                -Connally and Shultz
                -Haldeman
  • 015-100 4:15 PM · 10 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Clark MacGregor talked on the telephone from 4:15 pm to 4:26 pm.
  • 015-101 4:26 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:26 pm and 4:31 pm.
  • 015-102 4:26 PM · 30 sec — unknown person(s) and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:26 pm and 4:31 pm.
  • 015-103 4:26 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:26 pm and 4:31 pm.
  • 622-008 4:26 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:26 pm and 4:31 pm.
  • 622-009 4:26 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:26 pm and 4:31 pm.
  • 622-010 4:31 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:31 pm to 4:32 pm.
  • 622-011 4:32 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:32 pm and 4:50 pm.

Conversation 015-104, November 22, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/015-104 (accessed October 1, 2026).