Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 15 › Conversation 015-202
Nixon phone call with Colson on Unemployment statistics
Thursday, December 2, 1971 · 2:07 PM–2:19 PM ET · White House Telephone
AI Summary
President Nixon and Charles Colson discussed the administration's strategic response to rising unemployment statistics, specifically planning how to address potential political criticism from figures like Lawrence F. O'Brien. They reviewed current labor data, including coordination with Secretary of Labor James D. Hodgson, and evaluated the potential for personnel reassignments within the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the Council of Economic Advisers. The conversation also touched on various logistical matters, including scheduling and legislative issues such as the campaign check-off veto.
- Unemployment statistics
- Bureau of Labor Statistics
- Political strategy
- Personnel management
- Economic policy
Audio
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NARA Description
On December 2, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 2:07 pm to 2:19 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 015-202 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 15-202
Date: December 2, 1971
Time: 2:07 pm - 2:19 pm
Location: White House Telephone
The President talked with Charles W. Colson.
[See also Conversation No. 628-11]
The President's schedule
-Florida trip
-Meeting with Golda Meir
-George Meany
-Health
Unemployment statistics
-Increase
-James D. Hodgson
-Paul W. McCracken
-Reaction
-Actual compared with seasonal figures
Wholesale statistics
-Release
Unemployment figures
-Lawrence F. O'Brien
-Prepared Hodgson statement
-Congress
-Campaign check-off
-Drop
-Geoffrey H. Moore
-Possible reassignment
-John B. Connally
-Department of Treasury
-Memo from Colson and Frederic V. Malek
-Council of Economic Advisors [CEA]
-Leon Greenberg[?]
-Moore
-Herbert G. Stein
-Peter G. Peterson
-Bureau of Labor Statistics [BLS]
-Reporting technique
-Impact
Quarterly plant and equipment statistics
-Harold C. Passer statement
Grain shipment
-Earl L. Butz
Campaign check-off
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Clark MacGregor
-Veto
-Conference report
-Senate reaction
-Candidates
-Mills
-Unavailability
-Veto
-Proposed message
-1972 election
-The President's speech on aging
-Response
The conversation was cut off at an unknown time before 2:19 pm.Also recorded on December 2, 1971
- 015-199 1:50 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:50 pm and 2:07 pm.
- 015-200 1:50 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:50 pm and 2:07 pm.
- 015-201 1:50 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:50 pm and 2:07 pm.
- 628-009 2:03 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:03 pm and 2:07 pm.
- 628-010 2:03 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:03 pm and 2:07 pm.
- 628-011 2:07 PM · 9 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:07 pm to 2:19 pm.
- 628-012 2:19 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 2:19 pm.
- 628-013 2:19 PM · 32 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Gordon M. Metcalf, William M. Batten, George P. Shultz, Richard A. Moore, Ronald L. Ziegler, White House photographer, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:19 pm to 2:50 pm.
Cite this conversation
Conversation 015-202, December 2, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/015-202 (accessed October 12, 2026).