Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 23 › Conversation 023-156

Kissinger phone call on Kenneth Rush and Department of Defense

Thursday, May 4, 1972 · 3:04 PM–3:44 PM ET · White House Telephone · 18 sec

ParticipantsKissinger, Henry A.; White House operatorConversation023-156 on Tape 23StartThursday, May 4, 1972 at 3:04 PMEndThursday, May 4, 1972 at 3:44 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 023-156 ↗

Henry A. Kissinger contacted the White House operator to facilitate an urgent communication with Deputy Secretary of Defense Kenneth Rush. The brief interaction focused solely on placing the call, with the operator confirming the recipient's identity after a brief clarification. This exchange served as a logistical step to enable high-level coordination between the National Security Advisor and the Department of Defense.

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Yes, please.
Can you get me the Deputy Secretary of Defense?
That's for Mr. Kissinger.
Thank you.
Pack.
I mean, rush.
Rush.
Rush?
Yep.
All right.

On May 4, 1972, Henry A. Kissinger and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:04 pm and 3:44 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-156 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 23-156

Date: May 4, 1972
Time: Unknown between 3:04 and 3:44 pm
Location: White House Telephone

Henry A. Kissinger talked with the White House operator.

[See also Conversation No. 334-44D]

     Request for a call to Deputy Secretary of Defense
         -[David] Kenneth Rush
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Conversation 023-156, May 4, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-156 (accessed October 9, 2026).