Nixon White House TapesTape 28 › Conversation 028-037

Nixon phone call with Kiernan on Law enforcement and Police relations

Tuesday, August 1, 1972 · 5:20 PM–5:21 PM ET · White House Telephone ·18 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Kiernan, Edward J.Conversation028-037 onTape 28StartTuesday, August 1, 1972 at 5:20 PMEndTuesday, August 1, 1972 at 5:21 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 028-037 ↗

President Richard M. Nixon held a brief telephone conversation with Edward J. Kiernan, the president of the International Conference of Police Associations. The discussion served as a follow-up to a previous engagement between the two men. Due to the withdrawal of the primary content for privacy reasons, no specific policy decisions or action items are available for review.

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Hello?
Mr.
Person has Edward J. Kiernan.
Yes.
Question's on the line, sir.
Hello?

On August 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Edward J. Kiernan talked on the telephone from 5:20 pm to 5:21 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 028-037 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 28-37

Date: August 1, 1972
Time: 5:20 pm - 5:21 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Edward J. Kiernan.

[See Conversation No. 758-20]

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  • 758-019 5:17 PM · 34 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:17 pm and 5:20 pm.
  • 758-020 5:20 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Edward J. Kiernan met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:20 pm to 5:21 pm.
  • 758-021 5:21 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:21 pm and 5:22 pm.
  • 758-022 5:22 PM · 26 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:22 pm to 5:23 pm.
  • 028-038 5:23 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John McCarroll, Jim Keys, and Elmer Roger talked on the telephone from 5:23 pm to 5:26 pm.
  • 758-023 5:23 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John McCarroll met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:23 pm to 5:26 pm.
  • 028-039 5:26 PM · 10 sec — The recording device engaged on an unknown date, sometime between 5:26 pm on August 1, 1972 and 9:33 am on August 2, 1972, but the conversation appears to be blank.

Conversation 028-037, August 1, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/028-037 (accessed September 18, 2026).