Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 34 › Conversation 034-024

Nixon phone call with Bull on Lucy Winchester

Tuesday, December 5, 1972 · 2:56 PM–2:57 PM ET · White House Telephone · 42 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation034-024 on Tape 34StartTuesday, December 5, 1972 at 2:56 PMEndTuesday, December 5, 1972 at 2:57 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 034-024 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 647841652 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull discussed the scheduling logistics for an upcoming reception involving California administration officials, ultimately confirming the start time. The President also inquired about Bull's ongoing coordination with Lucy Winchester regarding her scheduled meeting with First Lady Pat Nixon. Nixon instructed Bull to maintain his role as the primary point of contact and to manage the interpersonal dynamics of these arrangements smoothly.

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NARA Description

On December 5, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 2:56 pm to 2:57 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 034-024 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 34-24

Date: December 5, 1972
Time: 2:56 pm - 2:57 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked to Stephen B. Bull.
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                               Conversation No. 34-24 (cont’d)

[See Conversation No. 386-1B]

       The President’s schedule
            -Forthcoming reception [for California administration officials]
                  -Timing

       Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s schedule
            -Lucy A. Winchester
                  -Forthcoming meeting
                  -Bull’s role

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Yeah.
Yeah.
Steve.
Yes, sir.
It would serve my interest much better if I could do this thing earlier there.
Are they going to gather not until 730?
Not until 730, sir.
Not until 7.30.
They won't get there then.
No, sir.
All right.
Fine.
Thank you very much.
How are you getting along with Lucy?
Everything fine?
Everything is fine with Lucy, yes, sir.
Yeah.
She's going to be speaking with the First Lady.
Fine.
And you're to be the contact on these things, and you're to be the little smoothie, okay?
All right, sir.
Fine.
You know how to do that, don't you?
Yes, sir.
I think so.
Okay.

Also recorded on December 5, 1972

  • 034-022 1:09 PM · 45 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 1:09 pm to 1:10 pm.
  • 387-010 1:10 PM · 23 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:10 pm and 2:00 pm.
  • 387-011 1:10 PM · 28 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:10 pm and 2:00 pm.
  • 387-012 1:10 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:10 pm and 2:00 pm.
  • 034-023 2:00 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:00 pm and 2:56 pm.
  • 386-001 2:00 PM · 3 hr 30 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, Stephen B. Bull, Ronald L. Ziegler, Manolo Sanchez, John B. Connally, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:00 pm and 6:20 pm.
  • 387-013 2:00 PM · 44 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:00 pm and 3:00 pm.
  • 034-025 2:58 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 2:58 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 034-024, December 5, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 647841652). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/034-024 (accessed November 12, 2026).