Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-002

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on H.R. Haldeman

Friday, April 13, 1973 · 1:28 PM–2:46 PM ET · White House Telephone · 12 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operatorConversation038-002 on Tape 38StartFriday, April 13, 1973 at 1:28 PMEndFriday, April 13, 1973 at 2:46 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-002 ↗

President Nixon contacted the White House operator to place an outgoing call to Chief of Staff H.R. Haldeman. This brief interaction served as the administrative mechanism for the President to initiate a private consultation with his top aide. No substantive policy matters were discussed during this request for a connection.

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On April 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:28 pm and 2:46 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-002 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 38-2

Date: April 13, 1973
Time: Unknown between 1:28 pm and 2:46 pm
Location: White House Telephone
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                           Conversation No. 38-2 (cont’d)

The President talked with the White House operator.

     Telephone call to H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
  • 895-019 11:53 AM · 19 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:53 am.
  • 895-021 12:59 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:59 pm.
  • 895-022 12:59 PM · 24 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:59 pm to 1:29 pm.
  • 895-025 12:59 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:59 pm.
  • 895-026 1:29 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:29 pm and 4:22 pm.
  • 038-003 2:46 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 2:46 pm to 2:47 pm.
  • 038-004 2:47 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:47 pm and 3:54 pm.
  • 427-001 2:50 PM · 1 hr 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), John D. Ehrlichman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:50 pm to 4:20 pm.

Conversation 038-002, April 13, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-002 (accessed October 12, 2026).