Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-004

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Stephen B. Bull

Friday, April 13, 1973 · 2:47 PM–3:54 PM ET · White House Telephone · 12 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operatorConversation038-004 on Tape 38StartFriday, April 13, 1973 at 2:47 PMEndFriday, April 13, 1973 at 3:54 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-004 ↗

President Nixon instructed the White House operator to connect him with Stephen B. Bull for a telephone conversation. This brief exchange served as a routine administrative request to facilitate direct communication between the President and his aide. No substantive policy matters or decisions were discussed during this brief connection process.

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On April 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:47 pm and 3:54 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 38-4

Date: April 13, 1973
Time: Unknown between 2:47 pm and 3:54 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator.

     Telephone call to Stephen B. Bull
  • 895-021 12:59 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:59 pm.
  • 038-002 1:28 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:28 pm and 2:46 pm.
  • 895-026 1:29 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:29 pm and 4:22 pm.
  • 038-003 2:46 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 2:46 pm to 2:47 pm.
  • 427-001 2:50 PM · 1 hr 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), John D. Ehrlichman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:50 pm to 4:20 pm.
  • 038-005 3:54 PM · 20 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 3:54 pm to 3:55 pm.
  • 895-023 4:22 PM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:22 pm to 4:41 pm.
  • 895-024 4:31 PM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Joseph J. Sisco, Henry A. Kissinger, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:31 pm to 4:41 pm.

Conversation 038-004, April 13, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-004 (accessed October 5, 2026).