Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-103

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Key Biscayne and Camp David

Wednesday, April 18, 1973 · 2:57 PM–2:58 PM ET · White House Telephone · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Eisenhower, Julie NixonConversation038-103 on Tape 38StartWednesday, April 18, 1973 at 2:57 PMEndWednesday, April 18, 1973 at 2:58 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-103 ↗

President Nixon and his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, coordinate travel plans and discuss their upcoming personal schedules. Nixon outlines his intent to travel to Key Biscayne on Friday afternoon and mentions a potential trip to Camp David to focus on drafting an economic message. He also encourages Julie to spend time with her mother, Pat Nixon, despite the First Lady's busy agenda.

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Mr. President, I have Julie now.
Oh, fine.
There you are.
Hello, Julie.
Daddy, hi.
Hi, honey.
You have to go.
Well, it's all right.
I got a minute, sweetie.
Thank you.
I just wanted to call and see when we were going down to Key Biscayne.
Honey, we're trying to work it out so we go Friday afternoon if we can, about 3 o'clock.
At all?
I think you should.
I may go up to Camp David to work on the economic message, which I'm working on.
Sounds really good.
Good.
I just wanted to check with you.
Well, that's great.
I saw your mommy has a terribly busy schedule today.
But you just go ahead and have dinner and maybe see a movie and so forth.
Good.
I may go to camp, but if not, I'll do it here.
Fair enough?
Very good, Daddy.
All right, sweetie.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.

On April 18, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone from 2:57 pm to 2:58 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-103 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 38-103

Date: April 18, 1973
Time: 2:57 pm - 2:58 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.

[See also Conversation No. 900-24A]

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       President’s schedule
             -Trip to Key Biscayne
                   -Dinner
                         -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                   -Trip to Camp David
                         -Economic Message

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                                                                           Conversation No. 38-103 (cont’d)

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       Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s Schedule

       President’s schedule

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  • 038-101 2:50 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry E. Petersen talked on the telephone from 2:50 pm to 2:56 pm.
  • 038-102 2:56 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:56 pm and 2:57 pm.
  • 900-024 2:56 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:56 pm and 2:58 pm.
  • 900-025 2:58 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:58 pm and 3:05 pm.
  • 900-026 3:05 PM · 21 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:05 pm to 3:23 pm.
  • 900-027 3:23 PM · 12 sec — unknown person(s) and President Richard M. Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:23 pm to 3:44 pm.
  • 900-028 3:23 PM · 1 hr 22 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, George P. Shultz, Arthur F. Burns, John D. Ehrlichman, Henry A. Kissinger, unknown person(s), Roy L. Ash, and Herbert Stein met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:23 pm and 5:20 pm.
  • 901-001 3:23 PM · 33 min — President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, Arthur F. Burns, John D. Ehrlichman, Roy L. Ash, Herbert Stein, unknown person(s), and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:23 pm and 5:20 pm.

Conversation 038-103, April 18, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-103 (accessed October 5, 2026).