Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 41 › Conversation 041-005

Nixon phone call with Bull on State Dinner and Leonid Brezhnev

Monday, June 18, 1973 · 4:30 PM–4:31 PM ET · White House Telephone · 21 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation041-005 on Tape 41StartMonday, June 18, 1973 at 4:30 PMEndMonday, June 18, 1973 at 4:31 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 041-005 ↗

President Nixon directed Stephen B. Bull to ensure that proper lighting arrangements were made for the podium to be used at that evening’s state dinner for Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev. Emphasizing the importance of the setup, the President specifically requested that the lighting be sufficient for both himself and his guest. Bull committed to executing these instructions immediately.

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Yes, sir.
What arrangements have you made for a light on the podium?
For tonight, sir?
Yes.
I will make arrangements.
Absolute arrangements.
It has to be for him and for me, okay?
All right, sir.
Fine.

On June 18, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 4:30 pm to 4:31 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 041-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 41-5

Date: June 18, 1973
Time: 4:30 pm - 4:31 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Stephen B. Bull.

[See Conversation No. 447-7]

     State dinner for Leonid I. Brezhnev
           -Podium
                 -Lights
                                             -4-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
  • 041-003 4:27 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. talked on the telephone from 4:27 pm to 4:29 pm.
  • 447-005 4:27 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:27 pm to 4:29 pm.
  • 447-006 4:29 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:29 pm and 4:30 pm.
  • 447-007 4:30 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:30 pm to 4:31 pm.
  • 447-008 4:31 PM · 35 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:31 pm and 5:15 pm.
  • 447-009 4:31 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:31 pm and 5:15 pm.
  • 447-010 4:31 PM · 20 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:31 pm and 5:15 pm.
  • 447-011 4:31 PM · 29 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr., and Marjorie P. Acker met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:31 pm and 5:45 pm.

Conversation 041-005, June 18, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/041-005 (accessed October 9, 2026).