Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 43 › Conversation 043-163

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Interior design and First Lady

Thursday, February 22, 1973 · 9:58 AM–9:59 AM ET · White House Telephone · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation043-163 on Tape 43StartThursday, February 22, 1973 at 9:58 AMEndThursday, February 22, 1973 at 9:59 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 043-163 ↗

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President Nixon calls First Lady Pat Nixon to discuss the redecoration of their private living quarters with a specific set of 19th-century paintings. He suggests removing existing artwork in the bedroom to prioritize the display of these colorful, historically interesting pieces. The conversation concludes with a brief confirmation of their upcoming attendance at a performance of the musical "Irene."

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hello yeah oh i want to tell you that i uh i was on the achievement i looked at those pictures this morning you know and i got the light in them i wonder if i think you know they're so such interesting things if maybe you could put
Put them, you know, put a couple on one wall and one on another, because they are really fascinating pictures.
Yeah, see, they were seen in 1800.
Yeah, in other words, if you could put them, you know, around in the bedroom, you know, take down all of them, as a matter of fact, that are in there, and maybe except the one over the desk.
But even that could come.
But these, then you could have a group of four around because it's so fascinating.
And then sometime when I'm showing somebody, I can take them in and show them those because they're really a fascinating group.
And also there's more color in them.
See, at night you couldn't see the color, but they have nice color.
And I'm going forward in time on that thing tonight, Irene, right?
Yeah.
Fine.
Whatever it is.
Okay.
Fine.
Okay.
Fine.
Bye.

NARA Description

On February 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 9:58 am to 9:59 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 043-163 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 43-163

Date: February 22, 1973
Time: 9:58 am - 9:59 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

[See Conversation No. 861-4A]

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during
chronological review 2007-2013]

       Room Decoration
           -Paintings
                 -Visitors

       The President’s schedule
            -Theatre
            -“Irene”
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 043-163, February 22, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/043-163 (accessed October 1, 2026).