Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 44 › Conversation 044-121

Nixon phone call with Timmons on Legislative relations and Energy policy

Tuesday, April 10, 1973 · 2:01 PM–2:03 PM ET · White House Telephone · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Timmons, William E.Conversation044-121 on Tape 44StartTuesday, April 10, 1973 at 2:01 PMEndTuesday, April 10, 1973 at 2:03 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 044-121 ↗

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President Nixon and William E. Timmons coordinate the scheduling and guest lists for upcoming legislative meetings and receptions, aiming to avoid redundant interactions with Republican Congressmen. They agree to prioritize inviting members of the Ways and Means and Finance Committees to specific tax and energy discussions. Nixon authorizes a larger breakfast format for the energy meeting to maximize attendance while streamlining his schedule.

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Yeah, Mr. President, I was talking to Steve here, and I'm not keen on that idea of doubling that up that much and have me sit through another meeting with the GOP, particularly since I'm having the whole damn group down, you know, for that reception.
See, it just looks like I'll be seeing the same people two or three times.
Right.
What was the idea?
I mean, for me to do it for the... Do we have to do this in every one?
Do we have the energy meeting?
Then we have all the Republicans?
No, we wouldn't have to do it for them.
I thought that it might be helpful with the Ways and Means and Finance members who normally don't get to come to the White House.
Well, let's get... Look on Ways and Means and Finance.
Ways and Means and Finance, when you have the tax meeting.
you understand sure get them down for that i i want you to fill the whole uh fill in the whole row see and get get a hell of a lot of our you see there what i ways and means and finance and you can put in as many as 50 but perhaps 16 you see yes sir 16. fill up the front table and fill up the back table that's what i would do with that one right and on the energy thing incidentally i was talking about
I want you to fill up that damn room, too, that whole cabinet room.
And as a matter of fact, if you feel on the energy thing that if you feel that the group is too big, I could do that for a breakfast.
In other words, if you want to have a much bigger one on energy, I could do a breakfast and have as many as 30 or 40 people.
Sure, and just go through it once, though.
Yeah, that's right.
So on that one, if you want to, we could have a breakfast and...
and then put on the energy show for that.
Good.
Well, on this one, I've had to mention that to a soul, so there's no... Well, I didn't think...
I just think since we're having so much in, we've got three meetings coming up, and the Ways and Means plans, I think, should be invited for the other one.
Okay?
Okay.
Now, we're all set for the...
You're going to make telephone calls to the people for that thing on Thursday night.
That's right.
And we're going to do, of course, the letters are prepared.
Thursday at 5 there.
Yes, sir.
Right.
And we've got letters going up to them from you today thanking them.
Great.
Well, that's a great job then.
Okay.
Great job.
Thank you.
Good.
Bye.

NARA Description

On April 10, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and William E. Timmons talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:01 pm and 2:03 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 044-121 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 044-121

Date: April 10, 1973
Time: 2:01 pm-2:03 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with William E. Timmons.

[See also Conversation No. 426-28]

       President's schedule
             -Stephen B. Bull
             -Republican Congressmen
                    -Energy meeting
             -House Committees
                    -Ways and Means
                    -Finance
             -Tax meeting
             -Energy meeting
             -Thursday night reception
                    -Letters

Also recorded on April 10, 1973

  • 044-120 2:01 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 2:01 pm.
  • 426-027 2:01 PM · 55 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:01 pm to 2:02 pm.
  • 426-028 2:02 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and William E. Timmons met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:02 pm to 2:03 pm.
  • 044-122 2:03 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:03 pm and 2:09 pm.
  • 426-029 2:03 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:03 pm and 2:09 pm.
  • 044-123 2:09 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:09 pm and 2:10 pm.
  • 044-124 2:09 PM · 20 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:09 pm and 2:10 pm.
  • 426-030 2:09 PM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:09 pm to 2:10 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 044-121, April 10, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/044-121 (accessed October 5, 2026).