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Nixon White House recording on Cabinet Room and White House tour

Tuesday, July 25, 1972 · 5:13 PM–1:50 PM ET · Cabinet Room · 2 min

Participants[Unknown person(s)]Conversation104-013 on Tape 104StartTuesday, July 25, 1972 at 5:13 PMEndFriday, July 28, 1972 at 1:50 PMRecording deviceCabinet RoomSourceNixon Library record for 104-013 ↗

AI Summary

This recording captures a tour of the Cabinet Room, likely for individuals unfamiliar with its layout and seating arrangements. The speaker explains the placement of the President, Vice President, and Cabinet officers based on department seniority and proximity to the President. The tour also briefly touches upon the residential quarters on the second floor.

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NARA Description

Unknown person(s) met in the Cabinet Room of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 5:13 pm on July 25, 1972 and 1:50 pm on July 28, 1972. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 104-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 104-13

Date: Unknown between July 25 and July 28, 1972
Time: Unknown between 5:13 pm, July 25 and 1:50 pm, July 28, 1972
Location: Cabinet Room

Unknown people [custodians?] met

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[Duration: 1m 33s ]

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Unknown people [custodians?] left at an unknown time before 1:50 pm, July 28, 1972

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UnknownSo, this is the Cabinet Room.
UnknownThe president meets in here with the National Security Council and the Domestic Council. And the Vice President, the offices here. To the right and left of those two are the Cabinet officers by the seniority of their department.
UnknownLook across at the portraits.
UnknownUh, State and Treasury, I think, two of the oldest. So, they're the closest. And down at the other end [unintelligible]
UnknownWell, they It's alternate. For instance, the Secretary of State is at the President's right. And then the Secretary of Treasury, being the next oldest, is at the Vice President's right.
UnknownThat leaves the President's left.
UnknownIn here, and it looks across at the [unintelligible]
UnknownDo they live upstairs? Yes, on the second floor is

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  • 753-004 5:17 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:17 pm and 5:19 pm.
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Cite this conversation

Conversation 104-013, July 25, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/104-013 (accessed November 2, 2026).