Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 140 › Conversation 140-038

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Republican National Convention

Saturday, August 19, 1972 · 11:42 AM–11:49 AM ET · Camp David Study Table · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation140-038 on Tape 140StartSaturday, August 19, 1972 at 11:42 AMEndSaturday, August 19, 1972 at 11:49 AMRecording deviceCamp David Study TableSourceNixon Library record for 140-038 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon discussed security concerns regarding the upcoming Republican National Convention and the safety of the President's family. The President addressed potential logistical challenges and security threats, specifically pledging to secure protection for George C. Wallace. Additionally, they touched upon travel arrangements involving Robert H. Abplanalp’s plane and the use of military base facilities.

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Of course, even getting to the airport, apparently these guys are going to be out for blood.

You know, we'll arrange for that.

I'm going to send, or I can order the protection any time.

And I'm going to, while I'm there.

I'm going to order protection.

I'll order for Wallace, even now.

I wonder if he can get into that base.

I guess he can if he has David.

Oh, sure.

Sure.

And I'll order it.

Don't worry.

I can order it getting in there.

Okay.

That's what we'll do.

NARA Description

On August 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone at Camp David from 11:42 am to 11:49 am. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 140-038 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 140-38

Date: August 19, 1972
Time: 11:42 am - 11:49 am
Location: Camp David Study Table

The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

[See Conversation No. 205-5; one item has been withdrawn]

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 5m 11s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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     Republican National Convention
         -Protection
               -The President's family
                     -George C. Wallace

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 31s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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     Robert H. Abplanalp's plane's itinerary
         -Possible use of an Air Force Base [Homestead?]

                -[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
                -The President’s order

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 40s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

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Also recorded on August 19, 1972

140-037 11:25 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:25 am and 11:42 am.
205-003 11:25 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:25 am and 11:42 am.
205-004 11:25 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:25 am and 11:42 am.
205-005 11:42 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 11:42 am to 11:49 am.
140-039 11:49 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:49 am and 12:02 pm.
205-006 11:49 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:49 am and 12:02 pm.
205-007 11:49 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:49 am and 12:02 pm.
140-040 12:02 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone at Camp David from 12:02 pm to 12:05 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 140-038, August 19, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/140-038 (accessed October 8, 2026).