Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 205 › Conversation 205-005

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on George Wallace

Saturday, August 19, 1972 · 11:42 AM–11:49 AM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation205-005 on Tape 205StartSaturday, August 19, 1972 at 11:42 AMEndSaturday, August 19, 1972 at 11:49 AMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 205-005 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon discussed the logistical arrangements for providing security protection for George Wallace. The President explicitly confirmed his authority and intent to order the deployment of protection for the former governor. The brief exchange focused on finalizing the decision to initiate these security measures without further delay.

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We're going to... We'll arrange for that.
I'm going to send it off.
I'll just order the protection any time.
And I'm going to, and while I'm there, I'm going to order protection.
He'll order it for Wallace.
Leave it now.
Sure.
I'll order.
Don't worry, I can order.

NARA Description

On August 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 11:42 am to 11:49 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 205-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 205-5

Date: August 19, 1972
Time: 11:42 am - 11:49 am
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

[See Conversation No. 140-38; three items have been withdrawn]

Also recorded on August 19, 1972

  • 140-037 11:25 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:25 am and 11:42 am.
  • 205-003 11:25 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:25 am and 11:42 am.
  • 205-004 11:25 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:25 am and 11:42 am.
  • 140-038 11:42 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone at Camp David from 11:42 am to 11:49 am.
  • 140-039 11:49 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:49 am and 12:02 pm.
  • 205-006 11:49 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:49 am and 12:02 pm.
  • 205-007 11:49 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:49 am and 12:02 pm.
  • 140-040 12:02 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone at Camp David from 12:02 pm to 12:05 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 205-005, August 19, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/205-005 (accessed October 8, 2026).