Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 164 › Conversation 164-056

Nixon phone call with Woods on Thomas A. Pappas and White House administration

Monday, April 30, 1973 · 5:52 PM–5:53 PM ET · Camp David Study Table · 20 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose MaryConversation164-056 on Tape 164StartMonday, April 30, 1973 at 5:52 PMEndMonday, April 30, 1973 at 5:53 PMRecording deviceCamp David Study TableSourceNixon Library record for 164-056 ↗

President Nixon contacted his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, to request a specific verification regarding his schedule. He tasked her with researching and confirming the exact date of his previous meeting with Thomas A. Pappas. Woods agreed to locate the information and report back to him via telephone.

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Oh, hello.
Hello.
Oh, Rose.
Yes, sir.
Check to see when I saw Pappas and let me know, please.
When you saw him?
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you, and call me back.
All right.

On April 30, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone at Camp David from 5:52 pm to 5:53 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 164-056 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 164-56

Date: April 30, 1973
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

Time: 5:52 pm - 5:53 pm
Location: Camp David Study Table

The President talked with Rose Mary Woods.

      President’s previous meeting with Thomas A. Pappas
  • 164-052 4:20 PM · 44 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 4:20 pm.
  • 164-054 5:49 PM · 32 sec — Camp David operator and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at Camp David at 5:49 pm.
  • 164-055 5:50 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone at Camp David from 5:50 pm to 5:51 pm.
  • 164-057 5:54 PM · 24 sec — Ronald L. Ziegler and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at Camp David from 5:54 pm to 5:55 pm.
  • 164-058 6:04 PM · 13 sec — Rose Mary Woods and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at Camp David from 6:04 pm to 6:05 pm.
  • 164-059 6:11 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 6:11 pm.
  • 164-060 6:11 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 6:11 pm and 6:50 pm.
  • 164-061 6:50 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone at Camp David from 6:50 pm to 6:51 pm.

Conversation 164-056, April 30, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/164-056 (accessed October 12, 2026).