Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 189 › Conversation 189-004

Nixon phone call with Camp David Operator on William M. Lukash

Wednesday, May 17, 1972 · 9:41 AM–9:44 AM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 21 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David OperatorConversation189-004 on Tape 189 (tape position 00:18:28–00:19:29)StartWednesday, May 17, 1972 at 9:41 AMEndWednesday, May 17, 1972 at 9:44 AMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 189-004 ↗

President Nixon instructed the Camp David operator to facilitate a series of return phone calls to key individuals. He specifically requested that the operator connect him with Dr. William M. Lukash, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, and Henry A. Kissinger, in that order. This brief exchange served to organize the President's personal and official communications for the morning.

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So, as you call me.
Okay, I'll take, let me get Lukasz first, and then Julian, I guess.

On May 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:41 am and 9:44 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 189-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 189-4

Date: May 17, 1972
Time: Unknown between 9:41 am and 9:44 am
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with the Camp David operator.

     Return calls to Dr. William M. Lukash, Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Henry A. Kissinger
  • 189-001 9:14 AM · 8 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 9:14 am to 9:33 am.
  • 189-002 9:33 AM · 4 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:33 am and 9:34 am.
  • 189-003 9:34 AM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John B. Connally met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 9:34 am to 9:41 am.
  • 189-005 9:44 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and William M. Lukash met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 9:44 am to 9:46 am.
  • 189-006 9:48 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 9:48 am to 9:51 am.
  • 189-007 9:51 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:51 am and 9:52 am.
  • 189-008 9:52 AM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 9:52 am to 10:06 am.
  • 189-009 10:06 AM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Beverly J. Kaye met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:06 am and 10:15 am.

Conversation 189-004, May 17, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/189-004 (accessed October 12, 2026).