Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 191 › Conversation 191-017

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on International travel and Iran

Thursday, May 18, 1972 · 11:48 AM–11:50 AM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation191-017 on Tape 191 (tape position 00:43:38–00:57:47)StartThursday, May 18, 1972 at 11:48 AMEndThursday, May 18, 1972 at 11:50 AMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 191-017 ↗

AI Summary

President Richard Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon coordinate personal logistics and wardrobe preparations for an upcoming trip to Iran. The couple discusses the expected weather conditions to determine appropriate clothing requirements, specifically the need for both lightweight and heavier attire. Additionally, the President briefly mentions his daily routine at Camp David, including his swimming schedule and social engagements with staff members.

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Hello?
Yeah.
I wondered if, you see, months and around, I think I've already indicated this, but except for the white tie and the accessories that I'll pick the suits myself tomorrow when I come back, the suits I want to take.
Iran, yeah.
There's no black, there's nothing else formal except
business suit for me, and short dresses go in it.
So that's that.
Now, on the weather, as I understand, is it quite around 50 to 60 degrees?
What about suits, winter or summer suits?
Mark Crawford would have the lightweight suits anyways.
They're working.
They're going to take lightweight.
They're working, and I'll take heavier ones for the night.
Yeah, it's colder there.
I like the blue room.
Uh, today, uh, foggy, uh, and, uh, I went swimming yesterday, so I'm going to go swimming again today, since we have my last one off before the weekend comes.
I have, the Brains came up to say goodbye, and I have breakfast with them, so I have to
on our end, these good children and stuff like that.

NARA Description

On May 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 11:48 am to 11:50 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 191-017 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 191-17

Date: May 18, 1972
Time: 11:48-11:50 am
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 11/06/2017.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[191-017-w001]
[Duration: 01m 39s]

[See Conversation No. 131-38-w001]

[End of telephone conversation]

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Also recorded on May 18, 1972

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  • 131-035 11:42 AM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 11:42 am.
  • 191-014 11:42 AM · 3 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:42 am and 11:44 am.
  • 131-036 11:44 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone at Camp David from 11:44 am to 11:45 am.
  • 191-015 11:44 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 11:44 am to 11:45 am.
  • 131-037 11:45 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:45 am and 11:48 am.
  • 191-016 11:45 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:45 am and 11:48 am.
  • 131-038 11:48 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone at Camp David from 11:48 am to 11:50 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 191-017, May 18, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/191-017 (accessed October 22, 2026).