Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 193 › Conversation 193-020

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Lady Bird Johnson

Thursday, June 8, 1972 · 12:46 PM–3:30 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)]Conversation193-020 on Tape 193 (tape position 03:43:16–03:50:44)StartThursday, June 8, 1972 at 12:46 PMEndThursday, June 8, 1972 at 3:30 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 193-020 ↗

President Nixon met with an unknown female visitor at the Aspen Lodge in Camp David to discuss logistical or administrative matters. The conversation touched upon the arrival of items from a warehouse and the schedule of First Lady Pat Nixon. The discussion also included brief mentions of Lady Bird Johnson and local recreational activities like swimming.

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3:44:27He just got arrived from the warehouse.
3:45:55I'm sure they get up.
3:45:57Yes, sir.

On June 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:46 pm and 3:30 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 193-020 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 193-20

Date: June 8, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:46 and 3:30 pm

Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President met with an unknown woman.

     Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's schedule
         -Claudia A. (Taylor) (“Lady Bird”) Johnson
         -Swimming

The unknown woman left.
  • 133-012 11:25 AM · 34 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:25 am and 12:30 pm.
  • 133-013 11:25 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:25 am and 12:31 pm.
  • 133-014 12:31 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 12:31 pm.
  • 133-015 12:38 PM · 8 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone at Camp David from 12:38 pm to 12:46 pm.
  • 193-018 12:38 PM · 28 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 12:38 pm to 12:46 pm.
  • 133-016 12:46 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:46 pm and 3:30 pm.
  • 193-019 12:46 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:46 pm and 3:30 pm.
  • 193-021 12:46 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:46 pm and 3:30 pm.

Conversation 193-020, June 8, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/193-020 (accessed October 8, 2026).