Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 235 › Conversation 235-007

Nixon, Drown & Eisenhower on Herbert G. Klein and Camp David

Saturday, December 9, 1972 · 12:58 PM–1:58 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); Drown, Helene (Colesie); Eisenhower, Julie NixonConversation235-007 on Tape 235StartSaturday, December 9, 1972 at 12:58 PMEndSaturday, December 9, 1972 at 1:58 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 235-007 ↗

First Lady Pat Nixon met with Helene Drown and Julie Nixon Eisenhower at Camp David to coordinate communications and schedule follow-ups. The brief discussion primarily addressed a telephone message regarding Herbert G. Klein, with Mrs. Nixon noting a request for a return call. The meeting concluded with Mrs. Nixon and Mrs. Drown departing the lodge shortly thereafter.

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I forgot to tell you that her client called, and I wanted you to call me back.
That's what I was going to do.

On December 9, 1972, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, Helene (Colesie) Drown, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:58 pm and 1:58 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 235-007 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 235-7

Date: December 9, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:58 pm and 1:58 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon met with Helene (Colesie) Drown and Julie Nixon Eisenhower.

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                Herbert G. Klein
                       -Telephone call for Mrs. Nixon n
                              -Call back request

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Mrs. Nixon and Mrs. Drown left at an unknown time before 1:58 pm.
  • 157-025 10:30 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 12:22 pm.
  • 157-026 12:22 PM · 35 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at Camp David from 12:22 pm to 12:58 pm.
  • 235-004 12:22 PM · 23 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 12:22 pm to 12:58 pm.
  • 235-005 12:58 PM · 29 sec — Helene (Colesie) Drown, William Hirsch, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:58 pm and 1:58 pm.
  • 235-006 12:58 PM · 15 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Helene (Colesie) Drown met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:58 pm and 1:58 pm.
  • 157-027 1:58 PM · 20 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 1:58 pm.
  • 235-008 1:58 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at 1:58 pm.
  • 235-009 1:58 PM · 56 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:58 pm and 4:00 pm.

Conversation 235-007, December 9, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/235-007 (accessed October 10, 2026).