Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 214 › Conversation 214-009

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Camp David and Family

Sunday, October 1, 1972 · 9:05 AM–4:06 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 3 min

ParticipantsEisenhower, Julie Nixon; Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation214-009 on Tape 214StartSunday, October 1, 1972 at 9:05 AMEndMonday, October 2, 1972 at 4:06 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 214-009 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 651228596 ↗

Julie Nixon Eisenhower and First Lady Pat Nixon met privately at the Aspen Lodge at Camp David to engage in personal conversation. Given that the entirety of the recording is marked as a withdrawn personal item, no specific political, policy, or administrative matters were documented. The meeting served as a brief, private family interaction between the two participants.

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Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 214-009 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 214-9

Date: Unknown between October 1 and 2, 1972
Time: Unknown between 9:05 am, October 1 and 4:06 pm, October 2, 1972
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Julie Nixon Eisenhower met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 3m 13s     ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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Mrs. Nixon left at an unknown time before 4:06 pm, October 2, 1972.

No speech has been transcribed for this recording. An AI model that listened to the whole recording reported: The entire recording consists of a continuous high-pitched tone with no intelligible speech, corresponding to a withdrawn item. Material withdrawn by the National Archives (for privacy or national security) is replaced with a tone or silence in the released audio.

  • 214-008 9:05 AM · 2 min — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-010 9:05 AM · 9 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-011 9:05 AM · 22 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Nelson Pierce met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-012 9:05 AM · 6 min — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-013 9:05 AM · 9 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-014 9:05 AM · 2 min — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Rita Di Santis met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-015 9:05 AM · 48 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-016 9:05 AM · 2 min — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.

Conversation 214-009, October 1, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 651228596). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/214-009 (accessed November 2, 2026).